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Odd 1976 831b

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Alaphablue

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Post Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:17 pm

Odd 1976 831b

I have a 831 b that has a round control key and a n6 casting mark . I read a document on line that said there were 3000 1976 n6 831b Is this rare i am having a hard time finding any info . If Any buddy knows any thing about this weird 831 I would be very thankful.
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keymaster1053

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Post Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:00 pm

Re: Odd 1976 831b

Hmm, I don't know if 3000 made would qualify for rare, but the fact it has a round head control key, could be that the original control key was lost, and they altered the round headed operating key by cutting off the shoulders to act as both.
So it could just be a common one. Nice lock just the same.
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Alaphablue

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Post Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:11 pm

Re: Odd 1976 831b

The round key has control stamped on it and is not modified . I have a different 831 that only came with a operating key I had to modified so I know what you mean . I have never seen another round control key .
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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:46 am

Re: Odd 1976 831b

Honestly, I'm not one for info/history on locks. Not really my thing.

But if it helps at all, I do have an 831B from 1973... viewtopic.php?p=45363#p45363

The key (round bow) was both operating & control... http://youtu.be/S1q0pW2bC5M

Enjoy it! They're BEAUTIFUL LOCKS. One of my favorites outta everything I own :)
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keymaster1053

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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:55 am

Re: Odd 1976 831b

Ah, well there ya go! thanks Oldfast!!
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I knew we'd figure it out. I bet after the first year of making the locks, they realized the genious' at the military level were giving out the wrong keys and had to do something different.
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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:40 am

Re: Odd 1976 831b

Alaphablue wrote:I have a 831 b that has a round control key and a n6 casting mark . I read a document on line that said there were 3000 1976 n6 831b Is this rare i am having a hard time finding any info . If Any buddy knows any thing about this weird 831 I would be very thankful.



So there were 3300 of those made, mine has that N6 casting mark as well. Here's that paper you were reading: http://www.antique-padlocks.com/shared/ ... ory_01.pdf

I've always been fascinated with these locks and the different model numbers and revision history. Been trying to write a paper about them for a couple years now, but life happens and here we are 4 years later.. lol. I hope to use some of the info and numbers from that paper in my own paper (proper citation and credit given obviously)

As for rarity, I think we should always appreciate being able to own one of these, 3000 is not that small of a number, but based on the fact that many of these were destroyed or thrown away, its nice to see that several hundred of them are still around on ebay and in private hands.

I hope to get back to my research this Fall and get something put together for everyone to enjoy. It's hard to gather facts on some of this stuff, and I hate to fill the paper with bad facts or just plain fluff and opinion, but even if it's just a bunch of entertaining photos and lock breakdowns, I'm sure people will still enjoy it.

Let me know what ya'll would like to see in such a paper, I'll try to include it.

Squelchtone
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Alaphablue

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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:44 am

Re: Odd 1976 831b

Squelchtone I have watched your videos They are very good. I wish I could pick my 833 it's brand new the keys are still sharp. Old fast I have read many of your posts and found then full of great info thank you for the post links will defiantly read them . I have 2 831b and one 833c cant pick any of them I'm to fond of them to ravage them with my picks. But I have a brass medeco I thrash every day .

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