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Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:55 pm
by Farmerfreak
This lock was sent to me as a challenge to see if I could pick it. It wasn't easy, but I got it.

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Re: Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:56 pm
by awol70
absolute beauty!
well done.

Re: Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:10 pm
by bezza1
man you got the bastard lol how lond did it take ya ???

Re: Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:11 am
by Xrax
nice ff xe0 had a bitch of a time with it...grats

Re: Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:30 am
by Farmerfreak
bezza1 wrote:man you got the bastard lol how lond did it take ya ???
It took me approximately three hours. It didn't feel like picking a normal Medeco, but most heavily used/worn out cylinders don't feel normal...

Re: Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:59 am
by KokomoLock
Great job FarmerFreak, you is da MAN!!!!!!

Re: Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:11 am
by jruther2
Great work FF! Looks like nobody will be using a Medecoder on that one. Do you think that part of the difference in feel and the difficulty that everyone had is because the groove doesn't go all the way down the key pins? What I'm thinking is that maybe in the process of rotating, the pin gets lifted past the point of the sidebar groove thus causing confusion. Of course that theory should only apply when trying to set a pin rotationally before the driver has been set to shear otherwise you would be over-setting the stack...just a thought.

Re: Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:39 pm
by vision688
nice job bad ass lock

Re: Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:48 pm
by bezza1
Farmerfreak wrote:
bezza1 wrote:man you got the bastard lol how lond did it take ya ???
It took me approximately three hours. It didn't feel like picking a normal Medeco, but most heavily used/worn out cylinders don't feel normal...

fuck that was quik mate :mrgreen:

Re: Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:28 am
by Farmerfreak
Thanks for the compliments everybody.

jruther2 wrote: Looks like nobody will be using a Medecoder on that one. Do you think that part of the difference in feel and the difficulty that everyone had is because the groove doesn't go all the way down the key pins?
That's probably part of it. But I know that some of the guys don't use a groove grabber anyways. The main difference in the feel of this lock, is in the way the cylinder is worn.

jruther2 wrote:What I'm thinking is that maybe in the process of rotating, the pin gets lifted past the point of the sidebar groove thus causing confusion. Of course that theory should only apply when trying to set a pin rotationally before the driver has been set to shear otherwise you would be over-setting the stack...just a thought.
Yes that was a problem. Especially on the very last pin. Which happens to be the deepest cut. It seemed like every time I got to that pin it wasn't set rotationally and was locked up. As I rotated it I also ended up overlifting it. So it was still locked up. Just locked up on the shear line, of course I didn't know that, I still thought I hadn't gotten the angle right... At one point when I let it drop back down (which I had done a number of times before on the wrong angle), it was finally on the right angle and I could finally figure out that it was a 6 depth. Figuring that out helped a lot.

Re: Pictures of a recently defeated S&G 826c

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:51 am
by xeo
Great job man, that lock was very sinister. The ARX pins were not blocking my picking attempts, they won't raise high enough to catch on the sidebar fingers. The problem I was having was because the lock was so worn, the feedback was all fucked up. I had trouble telling if a pin was rotated correctly or not in some cases. Guess I was just unlucky.