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Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:03 pm
by Patrick Star
Gutshots would be really nice!
Yes - newer Abloy locks are a bitch to reassemble, but take one for the team :)

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:07 pm
by Squelchtone
huxleypig wrote:
MartinHewitt wrote:
Bulgaro wrote:INSTANT OPENING
The locks open inmediately when the right key is fully inserted and started to turn

Do you know what that means? It sounds like the bit in the middle (don't know the name) is turning faster than the key?

Is the key part with the encoding fully fixed to the rest of the key or is it somehow movable?

Thanks


It means the discs scramble around to their positions as you insert the key. Unlike Abloy's previous incarnations, where you would need to rotate 90 degrees after insertion.


Wonder if you could tension the center post and then insert a 2nd tool on the left or right to turn discs manually and feel for them like the Jaakko or Huxleys tools can feel when you have friction/binding or no friction/binding in the rotation at certain angles to detect a gate.

Squelchtone

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:03 pm
by Patrick Star
Squelchtone wrote:Wonder if you could tension the center post and then insert a 2nd tool on the left or right to turn discs manually and feel for them like the Jaakko or Huxleys tools can feel when you have friction/binding or no friction/binding in the rotation at certain angles to detect a gate.

According to the scanned marketing material at the start of the thread, it has DBS like Protec. So, no.

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:05 pm
by huxleypig
Bulgaro wrote:
huxleypig wrote:I've had the nod on this for a while. The REAL question is...have you picked one yet?

No.I Dont know how to pick it.
Here there is one cutaway ABLOY GROOVE.Later will make photos and video and will show the lock inside.Will be interest for you.


It would be very interesting. I would like the actual thing but until then a breakdown will have to do. :smile: From the pictures above it looks like Abloy changed one or two little things but I can see one or two issues.

**EDIT** On the cover of the marketing blurb it says "They said it was impossible". Who said what was impossible? **EDIT**

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:05 pm
by metalworm
intresting, i was about to go and searc fore new locks for my home and i dident like anything i lookt at

but, i live in sweden and assa and abloy is the same company and its realy difficult to shop abloy here

? when is this out fore normal shopping

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:25 pm
by Patrick Star
Or just get a Protec/Protec2 - there might be a while before this is available as Scandinavian cylinders. If ever.
Either order from https://securitysnobs.com/ or place an order with an ASSA/ABLOY locksmith - even if they don't normally sell Protec cylinders they are often able to.

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:39 pm
by Bulgaro
metalworm wrote:intresting, i was about to go and searc fore new locks for my home and i dident like anything i lookt at

but, i live in sweden and assa and abloy is the same company and its realy difficult to shop abloy here

? when is this out fore normal shopping

February.On all ebay sites,all amazon sites and tradera.com

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:21 am
by Anarchy_won
I would love to take a shot at making a cutaway of one ;)

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:24 pm
by metalworm
ok, i will wait fore it and see whats everyone hera says about it :smile:

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:33 pm
by Jaakko Fagerlund
Squelchtone wrote:
huxleypig wrote:
MartinHewitt wrote:
Bulgaro wrote:INSTANT OPENING
The locks open inmediately when the right key is fully inserted and started to turn

Do you know what that means? It sounds like the bit in the middle (don't know the name) is turning faster than the key?

Is the key part with the encoding fully fixed to the rest of the key or is it somehow movable?

Thanks


It means the discs scramble around to their positions as you insert the key. Unlike Abloy's previous incarnations, where you would need to rotate 90 degrees after insertion.


Wonder if you could tension the center post and then insert a 2nd tool on the left or right to turn discs manually and feel for them like the Jaakko or Huxleys tools can feel when you have friction/binding or no friction/binding in the rotation at certain angles to detect a gate.

Squelchtone

Good luck, I was one of the few who saw the prototypes of this lock and had a bit of say in what is good and what is not ;) And yeah, this was years ago, I think 2012 or so.

The key bow is of interest to me, as the original was designed so that a blind person could use it. I wonder if it went to the production model at all?

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:35 pm
by Patrick Star
Jaakko Fagerlund wrote:Good luck, I was one of the few who saw the prototypes of this lock and had a bit of say in what is good and what is not ;) And yeah, this was years ago, I think 2012 or so.

Details, please!

The key bow is of interest to me, as the original was designed so that a blind person could use it. I wonder if it went to the production model at all?

Unlike normal keys that require you to visually read the key code and set that in the lock? That's how I always do it atleast :)

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:11 am
by Patrick Star
So, anyone happens to know whether this will be available in Scandinavian round cylinders anytime soon?
Or should I just get a Protec for this door that needs a new lock sometime soon?

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:02 pm
by huxleypig
Well, in the interim, here is something to get you wet.


Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:01 pm
by droshi
Bulgaro wrote:
metalworm wrote:intresting, i was about to go and searc fore new locks for my home and i dident like anything i lookt at

but, i live in sweden and assa and abloy is the same company and its realy difficult to shop abloy here

? when is this out fore normal shopping

February.On all ebay sites,all amazon sites and tradera.com


On Amazon:
We found 0 results for "abloy groove"

I also tried eBay, tradera and throwing money at my computer, but nothing worked.

I was hoping to get my GROOVE on, but what happened?

Re: ABLOY GROOVE -THE NEWEST KEYING PLATFORM

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:06 am
by GWiens2001
droshi wrote:
Bulgaro wrote:
metalworm wrote:intresting, i was about to go and searc fore new locks for my home and i dident like anything i lookt at

but, i live in sweden and assa and abloy is the same company and its realy difficult to shop abloy here

? when is this out fore normal shopping

February.On all ebay sites,all amazon sites and tradera.com


On Amazon:
We found 0 results for "abloy groove"

I also tried eBay, tradera and throwing money at my computer, but nothing worked.

I was hoping to get my GROOVE on, but what happened?


Ditto. I'd love to get my hands on one of those.

Gordon