United States, new issue dollar coins-PLEASE READ-

[the lockpickkid]

It has been brought to my attention that the Obama administration is pushing the upcoming dollar coins, there is only one problem, they do not say "In God We Trust" I am not a religious person but I see major problems with this, there is a major movement now to NOT accept these coins when given as change or accepting them from your bank when you cash your paycheck. I strongly urge our American members here to ask the cashier at your local store to just give you a dollar bill in trade for these coins, don't accept these coins, don't collect them, don't spend them, when they are a flop they will quite making them, and maybe they will reconsider putting what has been on our currency forever the strong words, "IN GOD WE TRUST" It all boils down to one thing, Obama doesn't believe this phrase should be on your currency because he has a muslim heritage, and or, he just wants the power to change our currency. Thanks for your time.

[Gonewild]

I hate to read things like this. I also saw the other day that he goes to foreign countries and bashes the states, blaming us for global warming and the expiration of resources. What a great guy!!

[the lockpickkid]

Well, I know he is so great! Please everybody, pass the coin issue on to others and urge them not to touch these coins. Copy and paste my story and email it to everybody you know.

[HallisChalmers]

Fuck it.

I'm buying collector grade gold coins and ammo. Bullion can be confiscated - but collector coins can't.

And if the gov't wants to confiscate my gold coins too, well, hell, they can have them - bullets first.

In God and John Moses Browning I trust!

Y-e-e-e-ee-e-ha!

[l0ckp1cker]

I'm actually in favour of a non religious phrase on money as religion shouldn't be forced upon and it definitely shouldn't be so closely connected to the economy and society of a country.
So, sorry mate, but you don't have my vote

[Gonewild]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust

Its our national motto. Its not forcing religion on anyone. Its money, not a book you have to live by. He is trying to change something that has been our history for a long time.

[HallisChalmers]

Kid, you might outta read this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/dollarcoin.asp

[Gonewild]

what part am i suppose to read? The false statement was that the new coins had In god we trust on them. That statement says exactly what i said lol.

[nozza36]

IMO Chaps , Money is money , if you don't like it ,
then give it to me !
If these are going into mainstream circulation ,
i want 5 as i do coin tricks , will buy with paper money !

[Gonewild]

HA HA nozza, if i end up with one from change, ill send it your way

[the lockpickkid]

Kid, you might outta read this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/dollarcoin.asp

So, it will have the phrase on the edge of the coin now??

Lockpicker, it doesn't have anything to do with religion. I don't know what to give you as an example because I don't know your country, What if I was some high up in your country and I decided to completely change your flag? a flag that stood for your country and everybody who fought and died for it? You wake up one morning and some guys face is on it with different colors, you would wonder what the hell was going on right? We have always had this motto on our money, but in another way of our government taking all our rights from us, they decide to omit this.

[Riff]

I agree with hallis. All I need is bullets. That will become the new currency. It will get worse than taking the phrase off money. I wonder if they're gonna put "In God We Trust" inscribed on that little chip they are eventually gonna make us take. I dont know if I will be alive to see it, but I absolutely believe it will happen. All of this consolodation of government power is what used to be private sectors is just all part of the inevitable. Universal healthcare anyone???? Government controled universal healthcare is a major stepingstone for them to have complete control. I'm done bitching now.......... Riff

[HallisChalmers]

I agree with hallis. All I need is bullets. That will become the new currency. It will get worse than taking the phrase off money. I wonder if they're gonna put "In God We Trust" inscribed on that little chip they are eventually gonna make us take. I dont know if I will be alive to see it, but I absolutely believe it will happen. All of this consolodation of government power is what used to be private sectors is just all part of the inevitable. Universal healthcare anyone???? Government controled universal healthcare is a major stepingstone for them to have complete control. I'm done bitching now.......... Riff

Health care reform is a socialist scam being pulled over everyone's eyes and the majority of us are too stupid to fight it.

Here's an example:
Monday, July 20, 2009
Shock: Inside the Healthcare Bill
Following the mad recommendations of Peter Singer made in NYT's Sunday magazine, it pays to take a look at what is actually in the healthcare bill.

It's worse than you can possibly imagine. Somehow, it manages to be Singer on steroids. Who wrote this bill. It has Singer's footprints all over it.

Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman's)

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!


Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise

Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will b issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example - Translation 4 illegal aliens

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - U Health care WILL b rationed

-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice

pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monop

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you'll all be paid the same

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs

PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems preventable readmissions.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.

Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone?

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage

Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs

[l0ckp1cker]

Lockpicker, it doesn't have anything to do with religion. I don't know what to give you as an example because I don't know your country, What if I was some high up in your country and I decided to completely change your flag? a flag that stood for your country and everybody who fought and died for it? You wake up one morning and some guys face is on it with different colors, you would wonder what the hell was going on right? We have always had this motto on our money, but in another way of our government taking all our rights from us, they decide to omit this.

Maybe for you it doesn't, but the fact that it refers to "God" is definitely religious.
And yes, we have a similar phrase on our money (or had, not sure since we have the euro), and I would be happy as well if it would be removed
I really don't see the big deal around it.

A flag is a whole different thing as it's completely integrated into history and a whole lot of things and it is well known worldwide.
Money is just money.
We've had 3 or 4 changes of money in the last 50 years, and yes, people will need to get used to it. but within a few months time, people have...

And as a final note, we do not have just one person who would be powerful enough to do so. And I'm glad we don't.
Changes will take more time here as it has to be discussed with many people, but they will be less radical

[HallisChalmers]

Maybe for you it doesn't, but the fact that it refers to "God" is definitely religious.
And yes, we have a similar phrase on our money (or had, not sure since we have the euro), and I would be happy as well if it would be removed
I really don't see the big deal around it.

A flag is a whole different thing as it's completely integrated into history and a whole lot of things and it is well known worldwide.
Money is just money.
We've had 3 or 4 changes of money in the last 50 years, and yes, people will need to get used to it. but within a few months time, people have...

And as a final note, we do not have just one person who would be powerful enough to do so. And I'm glad we don't.
Changes will take more time here as it has to be discussed with many people, but they will be less radical

Actually, the US Supreme Court has held that the phrase is not a religious statement, because due to its use since 1864 - it has lost any deism that might have been there to begin with. The phrase did not become the actual motto by federal law until 1956 -when it was codified. Prior to that "E pluribus unum" - Out of many, one - was the motto most prevalent at the time and still resides on our currency.

We Americans have a hard time with the liberal and socialist agendas that are gradually taking over our country. We can't talk about God - but "Allah Akbar" is protected free speech.

We can't celebrate Christmas - because it may offend others. All of the holidays that were common place are being legislated out of existence a little bit at a time. The change was gradual until our Dear Leader was put into office.

In six months time he's taken over the banking industry, the auto industry, and is poised to shove a healthcare system we don't want down our throats.

So excuse us if we hyper-active Americans get bent out of shape and reach for our guns when things don't go in the politically correct fashion.