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piotr

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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:06 am

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ratyoke wrote:It's not a permanent move, but I am enjoying Korea and I'll be staying another year, till spring or summer 2012. After that I will probably go back to the US and go back to making picks and jewelry and things.


Glad to read that you are enjoying yourself and also good to read that you will be returning. Out of curioisty, how are you making the wood-handled picks in Korea? Did you take some of your tools or are you doing entirely with hand files?

I don't know what kind of metal working skills you have, so I cannot comment on what kind of picks you will make, but I had over 10 years experience working with metal and was a professional jeweler before I started making picks. I love fine craftsmanship, and if that's what you want in your picks, I wish you luck. I have posted a tutorial on how I make my picks somewhere on this forum.


That is lots of experience. My decade (almost two decades to be precise) of work experience has been at a keyboard and in computer rooms so my manual skills are poor. I would describe my metal working skills as "minimal" (and that is being generous to myself). My metal work consists of crude hackery but I appreciate fine craftsmanship so I am dissapointed with my work. I want to create things of beauty. You have inspired me to make an effort to learn some of the craft. I have read over your tutorial twice and will read it again.

LocksmithArmy wrote:they copied it :( from a picks he made for me...
http://www.locksmitharmy.com/lock-picks ... riends.php


That's not the design they copied, this is:
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Those sneaky bastards! I do believe that imitation is a form of high flattery -- if not the highest -- so I say you should be proud. On the other hand they have commercialised your design and none of the rewards reaped have flowed back to you, which is unethical. The picks are being sold under the Klom brand (see here) which is owned by Hsiendai Co. Ltd. (which also owns the Goso brand). Can I suggest you send them an email (corp@hsiendai.com) and politely explain who you are and offer to sell pick designs to them? Hsiendai are always developing new products, they are obviously looking for designs, are unable to come up with any of their own and they clearly like yours. You clearly have a prodigious creative output that they should be interested in using.
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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:56 am

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ratyoke wrote:That's not the design they copied, this is:
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Those rotten bastards....I can't believe these ratfucks at GOSSO did this...
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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:47 am

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Thats seriously bad form, stealing someones design ....especially Ratyoke's. They make look the same but i guarantee that the quality is no-where near as good craftsmanship as the original. Im one of the lucky ones to have a Ratyoke in my collection and can wait to get more in the future when he starts making them again .
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uklockpicker

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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:09 am

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HallisChalmers wrote:
ratyoke wrote:That's not the design they copied, this is:
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Those rotten bastards....I can't believe these ratfucks at GOSSO did this...



I see this quit a while agao to be honest :twisted: they must be trawling the forums :bird:
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ratyoke

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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:54 am

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uklockpicker wrote:
HallisChalmers wrote:
ratyoke wrote:That's not the design they copied, this is:
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Those rotten bastards....I can't believe these ratfucks at GOSSO did this...



I see this quit a while agao to be honest :twisted: they must be trawling the forums :bird:



Yeah LockSmithArmy PM'd a link to some Chinese wholesaler selling them several months ago. I didn't say anything on the forum cause I didnt want to give them any publicity
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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:16 am

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piotr wrote:Those sneaky bastards! I do believe that imitation is a form of high flattery -- if not the highest -- so I say you should be proud. On the other hand they have commercialised your design and none of the rewards reaped have flowed back to you, which is unethical. The picks are being sold under the Klom brand (see here) which is owned by Hsiendai Co. Ltd. (which also owns the Goso brand). Can I suggest you send them an email (corp@hsiendai.com) and politely explain who you are and offer to sell pick designs to them? Hsiendai are always developing new products, they are obviously looking for designs, are unable to come up with any of their own and they clearly like yours. You clearly have a prodigious creative output that they should be interested in using.


Chinese have a reputation for doing this. Why should they pay for designs when they can just steal them from the internet. Yeah I could ask them to stop, but why would they? They know the only way to get them to stop is to hire a lawyer. And am I really going to spend the money to do that?
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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:45 am

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To be honest ive bought a set of these to see what they was like !? and there
piss poor to be honest worse than sha-lon picks, i wouldnt sell them in my shop just because i personally know these are a rip off version of your work -its a piss take and they wont get any more sales from me :whip:

I'm still hopeing to get the originals from yourself - when ever you find the time again - my pick collection will never be complete without a few of ratyoke home brews :smile:
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:38 pm

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I'll be back in the US to visit at the end of April. I'll probably make some picks to sell on the B/S/T forum, but I don't know if I will have time to take any custom orders. I'm not sure how long I will be back for.
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:17 pm

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Looking forward to your return, ratyoke! Even if its just for a while. :hbg:
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Post Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:28 am

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:agree: Sweet!
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:41 pm

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I got my plane ticket, April 23. I'm excited to go home for a while, but I still don't know how long I will be there. Expect to see new picks in May. I'm working on designs now.
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Post Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:12 am

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will you consider than sir, to offer your picks through auction, rather than buy sell trade, cause anybody with the c notes could pick up your picks, but... if you auction them,, we'll all have a fair, and better chance at getting them rather than getting PM'ed sniper fire from the get go!? just a thought, thus giving you more money for your picks, and us, more time to pull up the dough for them. i for one, wish to buy one, but i know, if you have a set price for a particular pick, ill never have a chance. auction them so that the enthusiasts that truely want them, will shell out the most cash for them, and not just beat us to the punch, far from another pick site!
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Post Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:05 am

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I think I will auction them.
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Post Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:10 am

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you rock sir!!!!
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Post Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:27 pm

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finally getting some work done since I came back to the US.
This one is up for auction in the BST forum now.

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