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ok awhile back i bought this guard 835/45 i could rake it quite easily but when it comes to spp'n i just can't i think it has mushroom pins because thats what it said on the package when i bought it does anyone have any suggestion on spp'n these type of locks?

i agree, they are a tough pick (spp)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhOEA-9Y ... h_response
and a total pushover to rake..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXfRabIQJOg
they contain very shallow cut spools, not mushrooms.(my packages just said "anti pick pins")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVuM_coWsGQ
i recommend light bottom of keway tension, LUBE, and set as many rear pins as you can without slipping into false....
in the field,however,i would always rake these locks,as once you perfect the technique,
they dont stand a snowball's chance.
(on a side note,anything 30mm and below in this series can be bypassed,and the back of the package has a nice cutaway drawing,showing exactly where to lever the locking bar.(s) )

thanks and heres the biting this migt be why it looks hard to me