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Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:13 am
by pickmonger2
Still hunting for ...

SURREPTITIOUS ENTRY REFERENCE MANUAL
The Surreptitious Entry Reference Manual (SERM) is a single document containing over 28,000 pages of information on various locking mechanisms. The purpose of the SERM is to prevent the loss of knowledge pertaining to surreptitious entry tradecraft by identifying those tactics, techniques, procedures, and equipment that have been successfully used in an operational environment. Surreptitious entry tradecraft are those tactics, techniques, procedures, and equipment employed to facilitate an entry and escape observation. Below is a screen capture of the manual.

Matthew L. Lease is a Security Specialist with the U.S. Army and graduate of the following physical security vulnerability courses; U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigation’s Advanced Security Vulnerabilities Investigations Course, U.S. Army Technical Counterintelligence Directorate’s Counter-Surreptitious Entry Course, U.S. Department of State Bureau of Diplomatic Security’s Lock Course, and International Association of Investigative Locksmiths’ Investigative Locksmithing Introductory and Intermediate Courses. A Criminal Justice graduate of Radford University and Austin Peay State University, Mr. Lease is also a certified Locksmith and author of the Surreptitious Entry Reference Manual.

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Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:15 am
by pickmonger2
Its unclassified with no visible copyright symbol.

Anyone ever get a copy or have ideas where to access it.

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:42 am
by pickmonger2
What I know is The Surreptitious Entry Reference Manual is a .pdf file with a huge collection of info on locks.

The author or compiler was Matthew L Lease.

It was published by the United Staes of America Department of Defense around August 2007.

In trying to find who to ask about it appears that the DOD has a 1001 departments and I need to know what might be the right department.

I have heard that it is not easy to find but those who have seen it say its a very good resourse.

One locksmith told me that he lost his in a hard disk crash and that it was comprehensive similar to the efforts of Tobias's Locks Safes and Security. He further stated if it was being sold by a locksmith publisher it could command a price of $100 of more.

The author Lease posted about it very publically For some reason those that have it or seen it do not wish to discuss it publically sort of like its contents are on a need to know
basis.

Has anyone here seen it or knows where iy can be found?

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:31 am
by pickmonger2
As most of you know Graham Pulford wrote High-Security Mechanical Locks: An Encyclopedic Reference

He knows locks

Any suggestion of how I might email hin?

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:16 am
by Visitor
Message him on lp101 would be your best bet, I don't want to put his email on an open forum.

The surreptitious entry book is also a good book (better than my government lss imho) but I'm sorry I won't copy it.

Are you wanting specific info for a specific lock?

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 1:06 pm
by pickmonger2
This document is very hard to find a copy of. Its not secret or classified.The cover proudly proclaims United States Department of Defence. It does not
mention what subsection issued it.

On the open market Locksmiths would pay over $100.00

Locksmiths who have seen it said It's worth it but they personally do not wish to share it.

I happen be a working locksmith in Ontario Canada where we do not license locksmiths. I work for a private landlord and do not trade publically but I have
twenty years experiance doing my rather specialised job.

In Canada when I want info on a Government document my vote sucking politician calls a service costing millions to get information.
My Minister of Parliament (Senator in USA) loves to help me so that I help re- elect him and donate to his political party.

In the United States of America your politicians can easily call a private service available to them (paid by your tax dollars) and ask who at the
Department of Defence issued this and how ca one get a copy.

I was told that because I was not in the military they are not equipped ( or allowed ) to answer my questions. Very friendly professional lady with a hard to understand (to Canadian ears) accent but sorry , can't help you!

This is a very requested document.

Would anyone be willing to make a few phone calls to their elected representatives to get any information?

Are there any members of the military who could ask where it comes from. I know its not likely to be easily shared but basic info would be helpfull.

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 1:45 pm
by malfunctionjunction
We have something in the US called the freedom of information act (FOIA), and some people are wizards at gaining documents through that process. I think it might be a roadblock not knowing which department to request the information from or how to ask for it, but I would think that someone familiar with the process would be able to use it to get this document.

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 8:01 pm
by pickmonger2
The FOIA is amazing.

As a Canadian I am allowed to request information but Kanukistan (Canuck slang for Canada we use) is viewed by many as a terrible socialist menace ( :cool: 99.9% free health care
and megga social assistence for all.

Could some american please ask or try a FOIA request. The community could even coughup $$$ to pay any charges.

Some !*%%! actually emailed me on another site offering it for $1000.00 if I want it bad enough. They reasoned that as a locksmith I should consider it a legitimate educational expense as I could earn a lot with this knowlege. He got it LEGALLY for free.

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2021 4:28 pm
by kenneth_v
Has anyone found this yet?

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2021 6:47 am
by pickmonger2
It has not yet been PUBLICALLY found as of May 25 1:00pm

I wonder if any one would be able to locate it on the big nasty dangerous Darkweb or Darknet that ubergeeks frequent. :drool:

Would there be a way to use the principle of Bribeware. If 100 users contributed $10.00 that $1000.00 might bribe someone to cough up a copy. Locksmiths who have seen it tell me it could easily sell for $100.00. It's on the level of Marc Tobias's Lcks Safes and Security.

Note: This file is not illegal to share, not copyrighted, just might be subject to abuse. The security through obscurity mindset that frequently tries to supress lockpicking information makes getting this .pdf file a challenge.

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2021 6:59 am
by pickmonger2
I love collecting locksmith locksports information. Sometimes I share some of the better finds.

There is a site in Russian that shows how to open over 800 locks. The also share links to other similar websites.

Google translate helps us enjoys some of this content. While it works pretty good its not perfect. You can try

http://www.locks.su/test/test_full.asp?lg=eng#Burevestnik

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kriminalist.com%2Fzamki.htm

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2021 8:53 am
by kenneth_v
pickmonger2 wrote:It has not yet been PUBLICALLY found as of May 25 1:00pm

I wonder if any one would be able to locate it on the big nasty dangerous Darkweb or Darknet that ubergeeks frequent. :drool:

Would there be a way to use the principle of Bribeware. If 100 users contributed $10.00 that $1000.00 might bribe someone to cough up a copy. Locksmiths who have seen it tell me it could easily sell for $100.00. It's on the level of Marc Tobias's Lcks Safes and Security.

Note: This file is not illegal to share, not copyrighted, just might be subject to abuse. The security through obscurity mindset that frequently tries to supress lockpicking information makes getting this .pdf file a challenge.



I’d be in for $10 or $20 as long as it’s legal!

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2021 10:59 am
by malfunctionjunction
Count me in as well, as long as we've got a real source and we're not just waving $1k around on the dark web ;)

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 9:37 am
by pickmonger2
Bribeware may actaully work

Any ideas on how to impliment it?

Re: Amazing database of locks

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:36 am
by GWiens2001
kenneth_v wrote:
pickmonger2 wrote:It has not yet been PUBLICALLY found as of May 25 1:00pm

I wonder if any one would be able to locate it on the big nasty dangerous Darkweb or Darknet that ubergeeks frequent. :drool:

Would there be a way to use the principle of Bribeware. If 100 users contributed $10.00 that $1000.00 might bribe someone to cough up a copy. Locksmiths who have seen it tell me it could easily sell for $100.00. It's on the level of Marc Tobias's Lcks Safes and Security.

Note: This file is not illegal to share, not copyrighted, just might be subject to abuse. The security through obscurity mindset that frequently tries to supress lockpicking information makes getting this .pdf file a challenge.



I’d be in for $10 or $20 as long as it’s legal!


Ditto

Gordon