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Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:20 pm**

Ok so I found these locks locked together and decided I'd use the master lock as a starting place seeing how you can pretty much breathe at them according to everyone and they open... Well mine must be an exception because I can't rake this or spp it "I'm not great at spp yet need practice" but I mean hell I should be able to rake it right? Also I've oiled it and done basically every technique I can find on YouTube and nothing

any ideas?

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:33 pm**

Ease off the tension. Most beginners use far too much tension.

Gordon

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:13 pm**

GWiens2001 wrote:Ease off the tension. Most beginners use far too much tension.

Gordon

I tried that .. I barely touched it for awhile and still nothing. I have been doing pretty good on a house lock I have its 5 pin and I have picked it several times but this locks killing me lol

Posted: **Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:33 pm**

Drussell0104 wrote:.....seeing how you can pretty much breathe at them according to everyone and they open...

Not always. Often times, yes. But not always. Definitely don't beat yourself up over it.

BOK? Make sure your tension wrench is not binding on the bottom.
TOK? Be sure your tensioner isn't touching the first pin, or, not allowing
you to lift it high enough. I can see from your photo the 1st pin is quite
shallow and will need to be lifted a good ways.

Sometimes I prefer somewhat heavy tension with those. It can make for
some very illustrated, crisp sets. You can really hear and feel each pin
when you've set it correctly this way.

Also, nearly all laminated Masters will open when turned in either direction.
Try picking it counter-clockwise. You may find it falls right open for you.
This changes the binding order and can sometimes make it much easier.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:12 am**

I've found that if I am having trouble with this model (or the no.3's & no.5's) that I have usually over set another pin inadvertently. Letting off tension to drop one pin or a light rake with my hook and light tension often fixes it so I can move on to the next binder.
... or I haven't fully set a pin ( this seems to happen more in the ones that aren't very audible when they set or I'm using too heavy tension).

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:53 am**

My advice to you is to forget that raking even exists and practice SPP. Move on to another lock and come back to it later. You'll open it eventually.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:19 pm**

xeo wrote:My advice to you is to forget that raking even exists and practice SPP. Move on to another lock and come back to it later. You'll open it eventually.

Good advice here.
Also that looks like an older crapy lock. It would be much easier to learn if you went out and bought a brand new master. Locks seem easy that become full of junk can become quite difficult. :akimbo:

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:25 pm**

As well as all the above suggestions, try noodeling around in the key way with a half diamond. :halfdiamond:

Always worked for me (with these Masters) when I was starting out. This will also give you an idea what pins to work on when SPPing it.

Keep at it.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:06 pm**

Thanks guys I'm gonna go pick up a new one tomorrow I don't get much feed back except from pin 3 and 1 can barely feel the others so either I'm doing something wrong or it's the lock. Best way I can figure it out is to get a brand new one

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:17 am**

If you're not sentimental about the lock (I know a lot of people hate this stuff with a burning passion :mrgreen:

), blast the insides with a good load of WD-40 to try and clear any muck out, work it through with picks, get the stuff down all the little cracks and leave it to stew overnight, possibly in a bath of the stuff. If it still feels the same after it's been dried off it's probably not going to get any better.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:29 am**

LocksportSouth wrote:If you're not sentimental about the lock (I know a lot of people hate this stuff with a burning passion ), blast the insides with a good load of WD-40 to try and clear any muck out, work it through with picks, get the stuff down all the little cracks and leave it to stew overnight, possibly in a bath of the stuff. If it still feels the same after it's been dried off it's probably not going to get any better.

Already ahead of you there I hit with Wd-40 several times already ha

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:15 pm**

Got a new masterlock 01 today and this one can be spp and raked. I'm getting it fairly regular but definitely gonna practice a ton . Thanks for the advice guys

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:37 pm**

Glad you're having more luck with that one

. Practice practice practice and good luck in your future picking endeavours!

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:56 pm**

Let us know if you get the old one open. I've had a couple of masters give me trouble like this. But get them eventually

Posted: **Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:18 pm**

Thanks everyone I'm gonna practice I don't like being not good at things :p but I do hate the handles on these pics they are eating the hell out of my finger tips

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