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Oldfast's gutted locks

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psykro

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Post Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:08 am

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sheer class, oldfast. sheer class!

for the life of me i can't see how there is only one shearline visible from the front of the lock though! its very escheresque.
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Post Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:44 am

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Very nice, Oldfast!!!
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Post Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:56 pm

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ACE PADLOCKS


A self-contained lock not designed to be disassembled.... so thought I'd just add this one to the collection.

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Nothing all too surprising that I didn't already expect with this one. It was nice to see a wafer being utilized though.

Many locks can be bypassed by direct manipulation of the latching mechanism by gaining access to it through the keyway.
This wafer is a simple fix to this flaw. Seated on the back of the plug, it provides a barrier to help deter such an attack.
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Post Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:01 am

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Great to see more additions to this thread :drool: thanks oldfast very interesting and excellent pictures :hbg:
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Post Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:50 am

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Ace hardware's locks are pretty decent. Even the rebranded Master/American copies (that are made by Master/American) tend to have more security pins, including serrated key pins on the rebranded Americans.

You did not the hot/cold water trick to pop out the brass plugs?

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Post Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:43 pm

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Thanks Alan :) I hope to add a few in the near future here.

GWiens2001 wrote:Ace hardware's locks are pretty decent. Even the rebranded Master/American copies (that are made by Master/American) tend to have more security pins, including serrated key pins on the rebranded Americans.
I agree. Most of them are fairly solid and secure for the price tag. A decent 'average' lock.

GWiens2001 wrote:You did not the hot/cold water trick to pop out the brass plugs?
Hmmm. You've peaked my curiosity.... do tell.
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Post Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:23 pm

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Only done it once, with a cheap padlock. Dunk a lock for a minute in hot (I used boiling) water. Pull it out (use tongs so you don't get hot fingers!) and dip it into ice water. The body should shrink faster than the plugs, causing them to rise up, some falling out. Pull out the remaining plugs, along with the springs, driver pins and key pins.

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Post Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:01 pm

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Ha! That's pretty cool. I'll have to give it a go sometime if I come across the right canidate for it.
I can see how this would work. I'd imagine it'd work with only a small minority of locks though, eh?
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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:42 pm

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As I said, only done it once. Therefore, I can not speak as to how many brass locks are able to be disassembled in this manner.

Have also heard about people doing the process the other way... Freeze the lock, then dunk it in hot water.

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Post Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:41 am

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Never heard that one before, I wonder if pre treatment with water displacing oil formula 40 would aid the process.
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Post Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:08 am

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Looks like if you were to attack pin 1 first, set it. Then you would drop into a false set and work your way out from there.
Is the regular pin always in the front? Or maybe it was by Random chance.
The more I Spp the more I like spool pins. :smile:

Good luck

this was in reference to the master 532
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Oldfast

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Post Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:10 pm

Re: Oldfast's gutted locks

I haven't picked a shitload of 532's, so I can't swear to it...
but in my experience, yes, the standard pin is usually pin 1

Maybe some other people can chime in? Has anyone experienced one where
the standard pin felt like it was in any other chambers other than the first?
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:57 am

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Hey Oldfast,
Just wanted to say thanks! Your tip about tension on the Metroloc was THE thing that allowed me to get into mine! Unless I was checking to see if I had an unset pin, all I had to do was SHOW it the :prybar:
I have learned so much from what you have written! Thanks again man!
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:55 pm

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tumbl3r wrote:Hey Oldfast,
Just wanted to say thanks! Your tip about tension on the Metroloc was THE thing that allowed me to get into mine! Unless I was checking to see if I had an unset pin, all I had to do was SHOW it the :prybar:
I have learned so much from what you have written! Thanks again man!

Just watched your vid... very nice! And it's always wonderful to hear something
I've done has helped in some way. So thanks for taking the time to say so :)
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Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:57 pm

Re: Oldfast's gutted locks

Hey guys, would any one be so kind as to enlighten me with how to measure the pins so I can decode and cut the key to a medeco biaxial with no driver pins such as the one described in the post? Ive tried looking at what I thought was everywhere and can't find any thing. Thank!
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