Segal Padlock

[Mikeh727]

I found this at a flea market today and bought it. It didn't come with a key. I don't know anything about these things and I can't find much about them online either.

The body appears to be some sort of copper alloy, not brass like others I've seen. It could just be copper colored because it kind of has a pewter look to it. The cylinder has "EDGE' stamped into it, although it looks like each letter was stamped individually as the spacing is inconsistent between each letter.

Can anyone tell me anything about this thing? It's a cool looking lock!

Thanks,

-Mike

(I apologize for the orientation of the picture...I couldn't get photobucket to rotate it for me)

[jeffmoss26]

E D G E would be the blind code for the key bitting. Looks like 3022 would be the actual cuts, tip to bow.

[mister sour]

Thats a neat padlock. Ive never seen one like it. Old padlocks often have weird characteristics that can make them extremely valuable or just cool. Yours is really neat. Im really digging how the cylinder is on the face of the padlock body.

[Mikeh727]

E D G E would be the blind code for the key bitting. Looks like 3022 would be the actual cuts, tip to bow.

Thanks Jeff, I appreciate you tracking that down for me. I'm going to try to pick it but my picks are packed away for vacation...do you know what type of blank this would take? I'd like to get a key made or try to impression one.

Thats a neat padlock. Ive never seen one like it. Old padlocks often have weird characteristics that can make them extremely valuable or just cool. Yours is really neat. Im really digging how the cylinder is on the face of the padlock body.

The cool factor is what drew me to it. I'd never seen one of these before. There are flea markets near where I live over the three summer holidays, so I went scrounging today. There were a few places that had some really cool railroad locks and others, but they were pretty proud of them based on what they were asking. I went looking for locks in their 'dollar bins' and overall scored two off brand newer combination padlocks, two older master #3's without keys, a master 300 with no key, a master #15 with a key, a Slaymaker padlock that has N&W stamped on the side without a key, and this Segal without a key for a grand total of $33. I gave $20 for the Segal and Slaymaker together at the same booth where the owner had several padlocks that were priced much lower than any of the others I had seen but it was really the fact that it was something new to me that sealed the deal. I don't know if it's valuable or not, but the cool factor made it worth the price.

-Mike

[jeffmoss26]

Looks like an SE1 which any hardware store should have. AR1 will also work.

[Mikeh727]

Looks like an SE1 which any hardware store should have. AR1 will also work.

Good to know...thanks for all of the information!

-Mike

[jones]

That case looks like a bronze casting to me, Segal used to make their lock cases from bronze as well, I think.

[Mikeh727]

That case looks like a bronze casting to me, Segal used to make their lock cases from bronze as well, I think.

I think you're right Jones. I found an old Segal catalog online from 1929 with a lock that looks identical to this one with the same dimensions. It's a Segal No.600 and was cast in bronze. I don't know when this one was manufactured but it's in great condition.

-Mike

[escher7]

Rotated the picture for you.

[GWiens2001]

Rotated the picture for you.

But now the picture is too small.



Gordon

[jones]

I'm interested to know how easily rekeyed this lock is, I wonder if Segal sold it with the intention that it be keyed to the same key that worked on the front door lock of the house? I always kinda thought that "one key" convience thing was a later invention, but I suppose it is possible that it began much earlier than with the Almont Rekeyable padlocks?

[escher7]

Rotated the picture for you.

But now the picture is too small.



Gordon

Just tap the picture to get the big picture, (at least on my tablet it enlarges it)). On a computer probably double click or save it by right clicking and then enlarge it as much as you want. Just responding to his apology for posting it sideways.

[GWiens2001]

I know that, escher. Just had to tease.

Gordon

[Mikeh727]

I know that, escher. Just had to tease.

Gordon

I would expect no less Gordon!

Thanks for making it a bit more user friendly.

-Mike

[escher7]

I know that, escher. Just had to tease.

Gordon

No teasing until I have taken my late night morphine and Percoset. Arthritis - the joy of aging. (65 on last Monday)