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SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:03 am
by Marduk28
Hey Guys,

I ran across these padlocks with their original keys today!

They look to have the same style keyway as the ANKEH lock I posted. These are also quite dense and feel to be of good quality.

They have ball bearings holding the shackle and the 50mm & 60mm versions are key retaining.

I only saw one instance of these mentioned online at LP101 here:http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=58552

These had been sitting on the shelf for years until I rescued them! They are in excellent condition!

Look at the mirror finish on the big mama-- love it!

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P.S. These are on ebay if anyone is interested in bidding. You can also PM me and I can see about giving you a discount off the "buy it now price".

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:08 am
by rai
Your selling?
put me down for one the big one if possible.
pm follows

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:53 pm
by Marduk28
Found a baby 30mm and a rim cylinder!

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Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:30 pm
by huxleypig
I finished the prototype Siter pick!! Works like a charm.

The next one (and any future ones) will have a few alterations but will essentially look like this:

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Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:33 pm
by Deadlock
Well that is some pick. I'm going to need a 'SITER for Dummies' guide here. How does it work? Did you make it from an original key? Do the bits behind the collar do anything?

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:41 pm
by huxleypig
Deadlock wrote:Well that is some pick. I'm going to need a 'SITER for Dummies' guide here. How does it work? Did you make it from an original key? Do the bits behind the collar do anything?


It is pretty basic to be honest. My original idea was to bastardise an original key but it was just as easy to fabricate the whole thing from scratch.

It works in a similar way to a tubular pick but tension comes from the big chunky tines themselves, pushing against the plug.

The bits above the collar are just 'handles' to make it easier for the user to manipulate the tines.

The screws (all except the one that is there to keep the collar in place) are there to individually tension/lock the tines into place. So when it is picked (or as you are picking it) you can lock them down and they will not move. Unlike most tubular picks too, they will stay firmly locked in place. I find with regular tubular-type picks that even if you lock the collar down 100% sooner or later one of the tines will slip and the pick will stop functioning like a key.

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:59 pm
by Deadlock
Ah right, I think I'm starting to see it. Pics of it dissasembled would be great.

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:54 pm
by Marduk28
Amazing work!

Well done my friend!

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:58 am
by rerun12
Marduk deserves some sorta title on here. "Indiana Jones of Lock Hunting" or something :)

sweet writeup too hux, thanks for sharing

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:39 pm
by Marduk28
LOL! I like the sound of that!

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:54 pm
by GWiens2001
rerun12 wrote:Marduk deserves some sorta title on here. "Indiana Jones of Lock Hunting" or something :)

sweet writeup too hux, thanks for sharing


Bum ba Dum BUM, bum ba dum!

swings into the lock store on his whip :whip: :whip:

Ahh, Dr. Marduk. Ve have been expecting you. Zee lock you seek haz already been zent to Berlin, vere you vill never find it! But you vill find your vurst fear... Snakes! Yes, snake picks and more snake picks! You vill never escape!

:mrgreen:

Gordon

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:28 pm
by Marduk28
HAHA~

Nice work Gordon!

Going from shop to shop digging around old inventory is a lot like treasure hunting!! Sometimes I leave the shop covered in all sorts of dust and dirt, looking like I have been through some kind of lock "Temple of Doom"!

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:51 pm
by rerun12
GWiens2001 wrote:
rerun12 wrote:Marduk deserves some sorta title on here. "Indiana Jones of Lock Hunting" or something :)

sweet writeup too hux, thanks for sharing


Bum ba Dum BUM, bum ba dum!

swings into the lock store on his whip :whip: :whip:

Ahh, Dr. Marduk. Ve have been expecting you. Zee lock you seek haz already been zent to Berlin, vere you vill never find it! But you vill find your vurst fear... Snakes! Yes, snake picks and more snake picks! You vill never escape!

:mrgreen:

Gordon


hahahha

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:03 pm
by huxleypig
Had to do an update, Marduk's pick is now finished:

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I love this making stuff lark, it's very rewarding. Unless Marduk takes your favourite new baby away!

I went to deburr the handle and it was on the deburring wheel a bit too long. But it smoothed out the aluminium and gave it really, really nice 'soft' feeling...so I did all of the handle like it. It makes me just want to bite it whenever I feel it! What I want to know, is this a well known technique? If so, what is it called?

Onto the next project, this should be fun, Abloy Classic! :akimbo:

Re: SITER; "Jan 1992" - Cruciform tubular Padlock family

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:56 am
by Deadlock
Brushed, is what it's called. Brushed aluminium. Still want to know more about this. What's the diameter of the shaft? 5mm?