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Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:29 pm
by Railyn
This might be a dumb question but I am new at this so I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the little hole next to the key hole is for?

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Thanks!

Re: Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:12 pm
by MBI
If it helps anyone else figure out what that slot is for, from the info Railyn mentioned in chat it seems to come from this company:
http://www.al-ko.co.uk/pages/security-devices.html

and parts of their website appears to be open to folder browsing and I found this area:

http://www.al-ko.co.uk/edit/files/handbooks/

Although after a quick skim through likely manuals I didn't see any obvious reference to that slot.

Re: Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:01 pm
by GWiens2001
It looks similar to the rekeying slots on some locks. If you press in the slot with a wiper insert with the key turned 90 degrees, does it push in further than it would if the key was not turned? Or keep pressing in it while slowly turning the key clockwise. If it moves further inwards at any point, try removing the key at that point without turning the key back.

Now I am curious.

Gordon

Re: Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:17 pm
by Railyn
Is there a special tool you have to use or is it just anything that fits in the hole?

Re: Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:29 pm
by Railyn
Well that didnt work, the only thing i managed to do was to pierce my finger with the tool :/ but even if I think something in there the lock just works as normal :/

Re: Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:29 pm
by Riyame
Originally it would have been a special tool.

Re: Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:32 pm
by Railyn
Well if that is what its for I have no idea what this tool will look like :/ even if I did I probably couldnt make one beacuse I dont have any...tools.. to make tools with here.... ;( stupid lock!

Re: Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:09 pm
by ARF-GEF
Since you have the key, have you considered taking it apart and making pics before reassembly? :)
Now I'm curious as well. My tip was rekey slot as well.

Re: Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:20 pm
by Farmerfreak
Almont padlocks have a hole like that in the front of their locks.

If it's for the same function, then yes it is for rekeying.

I'm not sure if it's the same or not, but if.. The way it works is by turning the cylinder to the position where that notch lines up with the driver pins. Almont prevents that from happening with a normal key by having the tip of the key hitting something and making it stop, pick the lock or cut down the tip of the key (bottom half) to allow it to turn far enough. At that point the cylinder should be able to slide forward and out, before pulling it out find a wire (paperclip bent into shape) to slide into the groove while hooking around the top of the cylinder housing. It should hold all the driver pins in place just like a follower would.

Or, if it isn't like an Almont. I would be entirely wrong.

Re: Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:12 pm
by Railyn
ARF-GEF wrote:Since you have the key, have you considered taking it apart and making pics before reassembly? :)
Now I'm curious as well. My tip was rekey slot as well.


I am afraid I wouldn't know how to take it apart and if I did I could probably never reassemble it again, I never done anything like that, like I said, I am very new to this... :/

Re: Can anyone tell me what this is for?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:13 pm
by Railyn
Farmerfreak wrote:Almont padlocks have a hole like that in the front of their locks.

If it's for the same function, then yes it is for rekeying.

I'm not sure if it's the same or not, but if.. The way it works is by turning the cylinder to the position where that notch lines up with the driver pins. Almont prevents that from happening with a normal key by having the tip of the key hitting something and making it stop, pick the lock or cut down the tip of the key (bottom half) to allow it to turn far enough. At that point the cylinder should be able to slide forward and out, before pulling it out find a wire (paperclip bent into shape) to slide into the groove while hooking around the top of the cylinder housing. It should hold all the driver pins in place just like a follower would.

Or, if it isn't like an Almont. I would be entirely wrong.



I tried this and I didn't get it to work.. but then again that could just be me doing it wrong :???: