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Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:32 am
by jeffmoss26
Hey guys-
Posting for a friend on Garage Journal who bought an old toolbox with this Yale padlock still attached:
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1) does anyone have an approximate age of the padlock?
2) the lock is stamped UR 6472, is this a blind code for the key, and if so, would someone be able to make a key to this code?

Thanks!

Jeff

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:25 am
by GWiens2001
You can use a feeler gauge as a shim to open this lock. Then you can make a key for it at your leasure.

Gordon

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:30 am
by jeffmoss26
I don't have access to it, he is in another state, so was hoping to just get a key cut to that code.

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:51 am
by rai
tell him to get an anti shoplifing tag of the long rectangular kind with one or two shims inside it. then put some wd 40 in the keyway and insert this shim between the plug and the cylinder so that it reachs the edge of the first pin, then lift that pin with something like a lifter pick, hook diamond or whateve, with light tapping on the thin metal of the shim while slowly lifting that pin, he should reach a point where the shim slips between the top pin and the bottom pin,
then he should pust it til is stops on the second pin and repeat the slow lift and tapping on the end of the shim,

shims of this sort are weak, and you ruin them if you crush the edge with force on the pin,
He might possibly get a stronger shim if he knows a friendly locksmith.

unlike a modern plug, there is no flange on this lock to keep shims away from the pins.

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:17 am
by GWiens2001
I'd go with a .002" feeler gauge due to the extra strength. While I love those security tag shims, it will likely be bent when the driver is pushed up by the serrations and mushroom driver pins. But the method Rai is suggesting is the same as I'd use.

Gordon

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:12 pm
by DR2
jeffmoss26 wrote:
1) does anyone have an approximate age of the padlock?


Probably between the two World Wars and maybe Pre - W.W. I.

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:36 pm
by 10ringo10
Here you go...if you require them cut let us know will need to order in the key blanks !

key blank cross ref chart included.

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:48 pm
by jeffmoss26
THANK YOU! I am sure someone in the US can cut me that key.
That blank looks to be the same as used for a Chicago or Steelcase file cabinet lock.

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:00 pm
by 10ringo10
Here jeff !

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:38 pm
by MrWizard
jeffmoss26 wrote:THANK YOU! I am sure someone in the US can cut me that key.
That blank looks to be the same as used for a Chicago or Steelcase file cabinet lock.


Yes the Chicago Steelcase blank would work.
I have original Yale nickel silver blanks and can cut that key for you.
If you still need it.

If it works great, if it don't your not out much as I will send it to you free.
If it does work and you would like to send me the $1.64 postage I would take it. ; )

Many times on these type of old push key locks they have been taken apart and pins switched around and hand filed to fit different key so no way to be sure a code key will work. :???:


Richard

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:14 pm
by 10ringo10
Good point mr wizard ?? can the cores or barrels be removed on these old yale pads !

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:14 pm
by jeffmoss26
I have keys on the way from MrWizard, thanks both of you for the help and I will report back!

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:43 pm
by Oldfast
10ringo10 wrote:.....can the cores or barrels be removed on these old yale pads !


Indeed they can. Gordon has some pics here

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:39 pm
by 10ringo10
HERE JIM ! MASTER 7 PAD

Re: Help needed with Yale padlock

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:39 pm
by keymaster1053
Awesome 10ringo thanks!!! what's the name of the software you use? I think I want to buy it! :P
Jim.