GeGe cylinders
One has to learn to face his fears, so after I managed to open some old Guard cylinders (now EVVA G330/550) with nasty paracentric keyways, I decided to take a look at GeGe...
GeGe ANS2-6
This is a six pinner with very interesting element in the bottom of the keyway - it is a hard metal stop, that should work as an additional drilling protection. It also features a anti-bump protection (here pin 6), that is very similar to the one I encountered in the FAB 200 cylinder - the driver enters the cylinder only a tiny bit, so the pin sits quite low and usual bump key wouldn't touch it...
Other than that, there is a counter-milling in chambers 2-6, that makes the last few moments of picking quite frustrating. Thing to note is also the interesting shape of the security drivers - it is an interesting serrated/spool hybrid; also note the variety of driver lengths - I'd say it is another level of the anti-bump protection (not sure if it can make impressioning any harder).
And last, but not least - note the anti-drill keypin in chamber 1 and driver in chamber 2 - I'd expect them in the same chamber...
As far as picking is concerned, the key bitting isn't helping much, not to mention the keyway profile - 15 thousands and a selection of deep hooks is a must (at least for me - SSDev combined with Multipick) and to be honest, these locks made me switch picks like no other...
One thing I didn't managed to photograph are 2x5 holes on both sides of the lock body - they are most probably meant for passive pins in the master key systems; the lock I have didn't have any installed and the core had no holes them.
GeGe AP2000
This is a standard five pinner, that seems to be a newer incarnation of the ANS2 - event the key profile is the same (although the strange element in the bottom of the keyway prevents full insertion of the AP2000 to the ANS2 lock - the key "lip" is thinned on one side). This particular lock doesn't have any anti-drill protection at all, which is probably the reason why it is one level bellow the ANS2 securitywise.
The rest is more or less the same, just the anti-bump pin is in chamber 4 - that makes it stand out like a missing tooth, when you explore the keyway with pick the first time...
This one went first - one pin less helps quite a lot, when learning the feedback...
Next stop - pExtra+, probably a sixpinner...
GeGe ANS2-6
This is a six pinner with very interesting element in the bottom of the keyway - it is a hard metal stop, that should work as an additional drilling protection. It also features a anti-bump protection (here pin 6), that is very similar to the one I encountered in the FAB 200 cylinder - the driver enters the cylinder only a tiny bit, so the pin sits quite low and usual bump key wouldn't touch it...
Other than that, there is a counter-milling in chambers 2-6, that makes the last few moments of picking quite frustrating. Thing to note is also the interesting shape of the security drivers - it is an interesting serrated/spool hybrid; also note the variety of driver lengths - I'd say it is another level of the anti-bump protection (not sure if it can make impressioning any harder).
And last, but not least - note the anti-drill keypin in chamber 1 and driver in chamber 2 - I'd expect them in the same chamber...
As far as picking is concerned, the key bitting isn't helping much, not to mention the keyway profile - 15 thousands and a selection of deep hooks is a must (at least for me - SSDev combined with Multipick) and to be honest, these locks made me switch picks like no other...
One thing I didn't managed to photograph are 2x5 holes on both sides of the lock body - they are most probably meant for passive pins in the master key systems; the lock I have didn't have any installed and the core had no holes them.
GeGe AP2000
This is a standard five pinner, that seems to be a newer incarnation of the ANS2 - event the key profile is the same (although the strange element in the bottom of the keyway prevents full insertion of the AP2000 to the ANS2 lock - the key "lip" is thinned on one side). This particular lock doesn't have any anti-drill protection at all, which is probably the reason why it is one level bellow the ANS2 securitywise.
The rest is more or less the same, just the anti-bump pin is in chamber 4 - that makes it stand out like a missing tooth, when you explore the keyway with pick the first time...
This one went first - one pin less helps quite a lot, when learning the feedback...
Next stop - pExtra+, probably a sixpinner...
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