unwanted holes
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How to get rid of those holes in casings & safes,not good on tutorials so ive posted pics
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Last edited by 10ringo10 on Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: unwanted holes
Thanks for sharing!!
femurat: They're called restricted for a reason...
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
Re: unwanted holes
And to find such holes, you tap the surface with a small ballpeen hammer, use the ball end. an even smaller such hammer can find capped holes in brushed brass padlocks, these holes are typically found over the pin drillings on the edge of the padlock, a larger one is higher on that edge where the locking dogs were installed,
these hole caps can often be seen if the brass that plugs the holes is of a different alloy mix (brass has between fourty to 60 percent copper and the majority of the rest is zinc.
sometimes bronze (90percent copper 10 percent tin) is mistaken for brass
brushing or filing the surface makes these visible caps dissapear until knocking about or corrosion reveals them
when a surface is tapped, it is then examined for tiny lines in perfect circles that are revealed by slightly sinking the surface.
on safes with filled holes is tapped these lines might occur if the threaded rod is at the surface and only hidden by grinding and painting,
when the lead is on the surface the peen will leave a distinct mark that cannot be made in the harder metal.
such marks reveal where a safe has been drilled to open and thus reveal where this can again be done but easier since the hardened metal is now gone. the mark will be positioned for aligning wheel gates.
wheel gates are now commonly aligned by use of a borescope, but before borescopes were widely available a wire was fished in to feel the gates and align them.
these hole caps can often be seen if the brass that plugs the holes is of a different alloy mix (brass has between fourty to 60 percent copper and the majority of the rest is zinc.
sometimes bronze (90percent copper 10 percent tin) is mistaken for brass
brushing or filing the surface makes these visible caps dissapear until knocking about or corrosion reveals them
when a surface is tapped, it is then examined for tiny lines in perfect circles that are revealed by slightly sinking the surface.
on safes with filled holes is tapped these lines might occur if the threaded rod is at the surface and only hidden by grinding and painting,
when the lead is on the surface the peen will leave a distinct mark that cannot be made in the harder metal.
such marks reveal where a safe has been drilled to open and thus reveal where this can again be done but easier since the hardened metal is now gone. the mark will be positioned for aligning wheel gates.
wheel gates are now commonly aligned by use of a borescope, but before borescopes were widely available a wire was fished in to feel the gates and align them.
Re: unwanted holes
I normally use the wire wheel on my bench grinder to clean years of 'crap' off brass padlocks so I can find the caps.
femurat: They're called restricted for a reason...
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
Innerpicked: The more keys you carry, the more important you look
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
Re: unwanted holes
Good write up rai ..thanks
on old safes the back box that holds the bolt works is tapped and bolted threw the 1/4 inch door plate and filled, by checking for marks as rai suggested these can be located and useing the right tool can possibly be removed while the safe is locked up.
i will have a look later and try and find a pic
on old safes the back box that holds the bolt works is tapped and bolted threw the 1/4 inch door plate and filled, by checking for marks as rai suggested these can be located and useing the right tool can possibly be removed while the safe is locked up.
i will have a look later and try and find a pic
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yeh.. heres a good example have a look at the door see the 4 bolt holes present...... really old safes admin
food for thought guys if you need to open an old antique safe and the locks seized up....very good point rai buddy
The handle would be a problem if its the bolt type spindle, but alot have screw on type from that period real easy to spot.
food for thought guys if you need to open an old antique safe and the locks seized up....very good point rai buddy
The handle would be a problem if its the bolt type spindle, but alot have screw on type from that period real easy to spot.
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i'm getting into safe work myself as of recent. this is an invaluable tutorial. thanks for the post.
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