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Posted: **Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:49 pm**

I will try to post the data you emailed to me, it's not formatting it nicely, let me try a few things...

Posted: **Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:16 pm**

Code:: 2 & 3 PARKED AT 30, 1 CCW Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 40 8.6 11.6 41 8.53 11.5 42 8.8 11.3 43 8.8 11.4 44 8.7 11.2 45 8.8 11.4 46 8.7 11.4 47 8.8 11.5 2 & 3 PARKED AT 30, 1 CCW 2 & 3 PARKED AT 75, 1 CCW Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 20 0 11.5 21 0 11.5 22 0 11.6 23 0 11.5 24 0 11.5 25 0 11.5 2 & 3 PARKED AT 75, 1 CCW 2 & 3 PARKED AT 30, 1 CCW Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 30 0 3 31 0 3.5 32 0 3.5 32 0 2.5 33 0 3.5 34 0 2.5 35 0 3.5 36 0 3.5 37 0 3.5 38 0 3.5 39 0 3.5 40 0 3 41 0 3.5 42 0 3.5 43 0 3.5 44 0 3.5 45 0 3.5 46 0 3.5 47 0 3.5 48 0 3.5 49 0 3.5 50 0 3.5 51 0 3.5 52 0 3.5 53 0 2 54 0 3 55 0 2.5 56 0 2 57 0 2.5 58 0 2 59 0 1.5 60 0 1.5 61 0 1.5 61 0 1 61 0 1.5 62 0 1.5 63 0 1.5 64 0 1.5 65 0 1.5 66 0 2 67 0 2.5 68 0 3.5 69 0 3.5 70 0 3.5 71 0 3.5 72 0 3 73 0 3 74 0 2 75 0 2.5 76 0 2.5 77 0 3.5 78 0 3.5 79 0 3.5 80 0 2.5 81 0 3.5 82 0 3 83 0 3.5 84 0 3.5 85 0 3.5 2 & 3 PARKED AT 30, 1 CCW AWL Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 2.5 96 0 5 96 3.75 7.5 95.75 3.75 10 96 3 12.5 96 3.75 15 96.25 3.5 17.5 96.25 3.5 20 95.25 3.25 22.5 96.5 3.5 25 96.5 3.5 27.5 96 3.75 30 97 3.25 32.5 96.75 3.5 35 97 3.75 37.5 96.75 3 40 96 4 42.5 97.5 3.5 45 97.75 3 47.5 97 4 50 95.25 3 52.5 97 3 55 97 3.25 57.5 96 2.75 60 97 2.75 62.5 97 3.75 65 97.25 3 67.5 97.5 3 70 96 3.25 72.5 97 2.5 75 98.5 2.5 77.5 97 2.5 80 97.5 2 82.5 97.75 1.75 85 97.5 1 87.5 96.75 2.5 90 96.75 2.75 92.5 0 2.5 AWL AWR Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 0 0 3 97.5 0 3.5 95 0 2 92.5 98.5 2 90 98 2 87.5 98 1.75 85 98.5 2 82.5 98 1.5 80 98 2.5 77.5 98 2 75 97.5 1 72.5 95 1 70 96 2 67.5 96.5 2 65 96 2 62.5 96.5 2 60 97.5 0.5 57.5 97.5 1 55 96.5 0.5 52.5 97 1.75 50 97.5 0 47.5 97.5 0.5 45 97 0.5 42.5 96 4 40 96 5 37.5 96 4 35 96 3 32.5 96.5 3.5 30 96 3.5 27.5 96 3.5 25 96.5 3.75 22.5 96 3.5 20 96 3.75 17.5 96 3.75 15 96 3.75 12.5 96.5 3.5 10 96 4 7.5 96 0 AWR AWL Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 2.5 96 0 5 96 4 7.5 96 4 10 96.5 4 12.5 97 4 15 96.5 4 17.5 96.5 4 20 97 4 22.5 97 4 25 97 4 27.5 97 4 30 97 4 32.5 97 4 35 97 4 37.5 98 3 40 96 4 42.5 96 4 45 96 4 47.5 96 3.5 50 96 4 52.5 96 3.5 55 97 2.75 57.5 96 2 60 96 4 62.5 97.75 2 65 98 3 67.5 96 3.75 70 97 2 72.5 96 3.5 75 96 3 77.5 98 2 80 96 4 82.5 96 4 85 96 4 87.5 96 4 90 97 4 92.5 0 4 95 0 4 AWL PK3@62.5 2&3WR Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 97.5 0 4 95 0 3.5 92.5 96 3.5 90 96 4 87.5 96 5 85 96 5 82.5 95 5 80 95 5 77.5 95.5 5 75 95.5 5 72.5 95.5 5 70 95.5 5 67.5 96.5 5 65 95 5 62.5 95.5 4.5 60 96 5 57.5 96 4.5 55 96 4.5 52.5 96 4.5 50 96 4.5 47.5 96 4.5 45 96 4.5 42.5 96 4.5 40 96 4.5 37.5 96 4.5 35 97.5 3.5 32.5 98 4 30 97 4 27.5 97 39 25 98 4 22.5 98 3 20 98 3 17.5 98 2.5 15 96 3 12.5 96 4 10 96.5 3 7.5 96 0 5 96 0 PK3@62.5 2&3WR AWL Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 2.5 96 0 5 97 4 7.5 96.5 3 10 96 4 12.5 96 4 15 96.5 4 17.5 96.5 4 20 96.5 4 22.5 97 3.5 25 97 4 27.5 96.5 3 30 96 4 32.5 96 4 35 97 3.5 37.5 96 4 40 96 3.5 42.5 97 3 45 96 3.5 47.5 97.5 2.5 50 96 3.5 52.5 97 3.5 55 96 3.5 57.5 96 3.5 60 96 4 62.5 96 4.5 65 96 4 67.5 96 2.5 70 96.5 2.5 72.5 96.5 3.5 75 96 4 77.5 96 4 80 95 4 82.5 96 4 85 96 4 87.5 96 4 90 96 4 92.5 0 4 95 0 4 AWL AWR Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 97.5 0 4.5 95 0 4.5 92.5 0 4.5 90 95 5 87.5 95 5 85 95 5 82.5 95 5 80 95 5 77.5 95 5 75 95 5 72.5 95 5 70 95 5 67.5 95 5 65 95 5 62.5 96 4 62.5 95 5 60 96 4 57.5 95 5 55 95 4 52.5 96 4 50 96 4 47.5 96 4 45 96 4 42.5 96 4 40 96 4 37.5 96 4 35 96 4 32.5 97 3.5 30 97 3.5 27.5 96.5 4 25 96.5 4 22.5 96 4 20 96 4 17.5 96.5 4 15 96 4 12.5 96 4 10 96 3.5 7.5 95.5 0 AWR AWL Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 2 96 0 4 96 4 6 96 3.5 8 96 3.5 10 96 3 12 96 3.5 14 96 3.5 16 96 3.5 18 96 3.5 20 96 3.5 22 96 3 24 96.5 3 26 96 3 28 95 3.5 30 95 3.5 2.5 95 0 5 96 3.5 7.5 95.5 3 10 95.5 3 12.5 95 3 15 95.5 3 17.5 95.5 3 20 95.5 3 22.5 96 3 25 96 3 27.5 95.5 3 30 95 3 32.5 95 3 35 95 3 37.5 95 3 40 95 4 42.5 95 3.5 45 95 3.5 47.5 95 3.5 50 95 3.5 52.5 95 3.5 55 95 3.5 57.5 95 2.5 60 94.5 2 62.5 94.5 2 65 95 3 67.5 95 3.5 70 96 4 72.5 94 4 75 95.5 3.5 77.5 94 4 80 94 3.5 82.5 96 3 85 96.5 3 87.5 96 4 90 0 4 90 97 3.5 AWL W3L@60 1&2 AR Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 97.5 0 4 95 0 4 92.5 96 3.5 90 95 4 87.5 95 3.5 85 95 3 82.5 95 4 80 94 4 77.5 94 4 75 94 4 72.5 94 4 70 94 4 67.5 94 4 65 94 4 62.5 94.5 93.5 60 94.5 3.5 57.5 95 3.5 55 95 3.5 52.5 95 3.5 50 95 3.5 47.5 95 3.5 45 95 3.5 42.5 95.5 3 40 95.5 3.5 37.5 95.5 3.5 35 95.5 3.5 32.5 96.5 3 30 96.5 3 27.5 95.5 3 25 95.5 3.5 22.5 95.5 3.5 20 95.5 3 17.5 95.5 3 15 95.5 3 12.5 95.5 3 10 95.5 3 7.5 95 1.5 W3L@60 1&2 AR AWR Wheel(s) At Left Contact Right Contact 97.5 0 3.5 95 96 3.5 92.5 95.5 2.5 90 95.5 3 87.5 96 4 85 96 3 82.5 96 4 80 95.5 4 77.5 96 4 75 96 3.5 72.5 95 4 70 94 4 67.5 94 4 65 94 4 62.5 94 4 60 94 3.5 57.5 95 3.5 55 94.5 3.5 52.5 95 3.5 50 95 3 47.5 95 3 47.5 95 3 45 95 3 45 95 3 42.5 95 3 40 95 3 37.5 95 3 35 95 3 35 96 3 32.5 96 3 30 96 3 27.5 96 3 25 96 3 22.5 97 3 20 96 3 20 96 3 17.5 95 3 15 96 3 12.5 95 3 10 96 3

Posted: **Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:54 pm**

Did the right contact really shift by 11 numbers?

Posted: **Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:14 am**

I had problems parking w1 and w3 and then manipulating w2, same with parking w2 and w3 and manipulating w1.. Now i could be not explaining this right. This is why i asked for help. Im about as book smart as a dog... i asked a OG safe cracker from my neighborhood and he came by and showed me some things. He told me to find the right books ask around from the forum and some one could point me in the right direction. I didnt mean to ramble on and on. "ADHD". If you can give me names of books, mag, forum write ups. I got pics, of the safe open the lock i took off like i said very disappointed about the lock being so cheap. I have to email them to myself and load them from there. I do thank you for your time..

Posted: **Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:45 am**

Do you have a photo of the lock for us?

Posted: **Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:10 pm**

The six most important things to learn manipulation:

1) An open lock (R6730 or so) to learn what's happening. I think the best lock is one which turns with some resistance, because with these it is easier to feel when you pick up a wheel.
2) I would have said that what you have read is enough to learn manipulation, but if you need more: The best book is IMHO "The National Locksmith Guide to Manipulation". It is available on the internet somewhere.
3) Practice to feel the contact points.
4) Practice to develop strategies.
5) Some general practice.
6) And some more practice.

I think there are in the US manipulation courses. That might be helpful if you are not so good with learning from books.

Posted: **Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:18 pm**

thank you Martin. im going to google the book and keep on practicing. Here is the safe and lock i took it out and like i said before was very disappointed that its so cheap looking and feeling. I just look i have the "The National Locksmith Guide to Manipulation" pdf. Back to reading it again and thanks again.

Posted: **Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:37 pm**

Can you please show the lock behind the dial?

Posted: **Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:23 am**

I know there very big next time ill take a smaller pic. That is what you wanted to see. Thanks for your help the only thing is i googled that book and havent found a free copy as of yet. I have been practicing on your advice..

Posted: **Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:40 am**

Thanks. Looks to me like a Yale 0700, but slightly different from what I know from photos. Actually there are much more crude locks.

Posted: **Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:06 pm**

thanks for letting me know.

Posted: **Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:36 pm**

Yale 0700

Posted: **Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:16 pm**

http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/anarch ... lation.pdf

Maybe this link will help find the book?

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