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Safe Chronicles, Part II - Beyond the Lockroom

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Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:19 am

Re: Safe Chronicles, Part II - Beyond the Lockroom

Deadbolt wrote:Thanks! Nice writeup.

You're more than welcome. I enjoy trying to share at least some of what I see each winter.
What I really like is when I'm able to add something useful in terms of manipulation tips.
But if nothing else, I know people enjoy looking at some pictures.



Martin, some good questions... and I"m sorry for such a delayed response. I'll answer
them as best I can - but again, I didn't feel like I thoroughly understood this safe.
Also, I opened this one about 3 months ago now, so it's not all too fresh in my mind.

MartinHewitt wrote:Where does the detent bar interact with the lock or cover?
MartinHewitt wrote:Which part is moving the panel?

The detent bar does not interact with the lock or lock cover. Essentially, it allows or restricts
movement of the panel. You see the triangular piece (above the lock) that the detent bar runs
to? That interacts with a piece on the back of the panel. I neglected to take a picture of this -
but really it's just a small piece of stock bent at a right angle and welded on.

Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong here - but in short - that handle gear you see
and the hardware surrounding it is what actually moves the panel (and bolts too naturally).
While the detent bar simply allows or denies this movement.



MartinHewitt wrote:Extending the bolts surely can't happen while closing the door, but when it is closed?

Correct.

MartinHewitt wrote:When the bolts are extended by the bar, the lock is still unlocked and the user would have to turn multiple times to fully lock it?

Also correct. This one is not truly locked until several turns are taken on the dial.


MartinHewitt wrote:Is there a counter measure against punching of the lock?

I really don't think so, unless I'm missing something. But no internal or external relockers that I seen.


MartinHewitt wrote:The safe is all around only one thick layer of steel?

Yeah, I think so. Thanks for having a look and posing some questions. Helps to get me thinking too :D
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Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:51 pm

Re: Safe Chronicles, Part II - Beyond the Lockroom

Thanks. Now I do understand it better. Do you think the inner cover is acting as a punching protection? So that punching the spindle will punch back the cover and thereby freeing the two outside bolts?
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Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:31 pm

Re: Safe Chronicles, Part II - Beyond the Lockroom

MartinHewitt wrote:Thanks. Now I do understand it better. Do you think the inner cover is acting as a punching protection? So that punching the spindle will punch back the cover and thereby freeing the two outside bolts?
Oldfast wrote:Something else; all 3 active bolts are spring-loaded. It is said (or so I've read) the
top & bottom bolts will act as 'relock bolts'--triggered if the panel were removed.

It seems to me it'd have to be a pretty violent attack to trigger that. But yeah.
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