LaGard 3330

[MeddlingKid]

Well, I have the unfortunate task of trying to open a LaGard 3330. I have identified the right contact point somewhere between 5-6 and the left contact point somewhere just under 99. I graphed the right contact point and came up with a chart. Looks like a high point at 26 and another range of high points from 36-44. I have read through many threads but am a little lost on where I should take things from here. Would very much appreciate any suggestions from posters here experienced with this lock.

[Cheesehead]

Well, I have the unfortunate task of trying to open a LaGard 3330. I have identified the right contact point somewhere between 5-6 and the left contact point somewhere just under 99. I graphed the right contact point and came up with the chart below. Looks like a high point at 26 and another range of high points from 36-44. I have read through many threads but am a little lost on where I should take things from here. Would very much appreciate any suggestions from posters here experienced with this lock.

Unfortunate task? If it's unfortunate, why not hire a locksmith to open your safe? Or what is the task exactly? Maybe tell us a bit about your safe/situation, I'm kind of curious now haha.

[MeddlingKid]

I say unfortunate task because this is my first lock manipulation and based on what I have read here these can be a bit of a challenge. But I do like puzzles and am excited to solve this. Would prefer to open it myself vs calling a locksmith.

[Cheesehead]

I say unfortunate task because this is my first lock manipulation and based on what I have read here these can be a bit of a challenge. But I do like puzzles and am excited to solve this. Would prefer to open it myself vs calling a locksmith.

I'd take a look through oldfast safe chronicles here and get used to parking wheels. Then park stuff around 92 probably.

[MeddlingKid]

I looked through the Oldfast chronicles and I am attempting to use the high/low approach, but will need to determine which points to start with.

[MeddlingKid]

I have tried parking wheels at 90, 92, 93 without any gate signature or further low points worth investigating. I may start from scratch and do another AWL chart, find the low points, and start trying to isolate wheels again.

[Cheesehead]

I have tried parking wheels at 90, 92, 93 without any gate signature or further low points worth investigating. I may start from scratch and do another AWL chart, find the low points, and start trying to isolate wheels again.

The graphs looked flat whichever wheel you placed there, or did some of them still have a shape? All succeeding graphs being flat is very unexpected. I would suspect if so that you did something incorrectly in your previous graph. Perhaps rescanning is best

[MeddlingKid]

I have tried parking wheels at 90, 92, 93 without any gate signature or further low points worth investigating. I may start from scratch and do another AWL chart, find the low points, and start trying to isolate wheels again.

The graphs looked flat whichever wheel you placed there, or did some of them still have a shape? All succeeding graphs being flat is very unexpected. I would suspect if so that you did something incorrectly in your previous graph. Perhaps rescanning is best

They were all pretty flat - Mostly within 1/4 of an increment. I re-ran the AWL graph and saw a very slight dip that I then ran a high/low test on which pointed toward wheel 2. But then when I tried to determine wheel 3, the graph was again flat (within 1/4 of an increment).

What am I doing incorrectly as I would have expected more variation.

[Cheesehead]

I have tried parking wheels at 90, 92, 93 without any gate signature or further low points worth investigating. I may start from scratch and do another AWL chart, find the low points, and start trying to isolate wheels again.

The graphs looked flat whichever wheel you placed there, or did some of them still have a shape? All succeeding graphs being flat is very unexpected. I would suspect if so that you did something incorrectly in your previous graph. Perhaps rescanning is best

They were all pretty flat - Mostly within 1/4 of an increment. I re-ran the AWL graph and saw a very slight dip that I then ran a high/low test on which pointed toward wheel 2. But then when I tried to determine wheel 3, the graph was again flat (within 1/4 of an increment).

What am I doing incorrectly as I would have expected more variation.

Mostly within a quarter of an increment, meaning some stuff wasn’t? I wouldn’t mind seeing that. Hard to tell what’s happening with so little information.

Until you find a gate the choices to make now will be much more subtle.