Sun May 03, 2015 12:39 pm
Looking for some help. Old sentry safe. First Manipulation.
Hey there everyone! Finally got around to registering an account to get started on my long journey of understanding safe manipulation!
Let me start off by saying im am a complete NEWB when it comes to this, most of my information comes from various sites (including this wonderful forum) and pdf files explaining everything from lock mechanisms to graphic, but I ran into a snag... I have an old sentry safe, given to me by my grandmother in the event of her death but I lost the combination for it, hence me wanting to try manipulating it. I feel like I should try and do it this way instead of cracking it due to money reasons and a personal interest in learning this skill but enough beating around the bush. This is what I found out:
After doing tons of research online I discovered that my sentry safe is difficult to find, but this is the internet gosh dangit so there MUST be a picture of the safe I won somewhere right?
BOOM! FOUND IT! (http://images1.showmethead.com/nlarge/1 ... 061129.jpg)
After a little more research I found out that the combination is performed in a L-R-L fashion due to instruction from another ebay listing where the seller contacted sentry (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sentry-Safe-SP- ... 5b113147c6)
Now for my experience so far. Trying to perform what I learned online, I figured out that there are only 2 wheels on this safe with the 3rd being the one actually connected to the dial. The only thing I was able to hear was the wheel clicks and not the contact points so I tried putting pressure on the handle while turning the dial and I Noticed the gates. I did this all by feel at first but then I decided to write down what I had found and how large these gates were. I found that the largest gate was between 63 and 67.5(ish). This is by far the widest, being larger than most of the others by almost 2 increments. Im assuming that this is actually the true gate, as I have heard from alot of posts that the largest gate is the true gate and if its on the dial connected to the wheel then it can most likely also be the last number in the combination.
After a round of graphing I kept getting flat graphs with no other indications (so im assuming im doing this incorrectly in my technique with engaging the wheels, either that or this safe does not graph through false gates.) One thing remained consistent however, 63-67.5 remained the largest gate. So that brings me to this post. Im either missing the concept of parking and engaging the wheels correctly or im wrongly assuming that 63-67.5 is the true gate on the dial wheel. In very basic terms (as im still learning the terminology of this all) what should I be doing from this point on? For example: should I start graphing after turning left to 0 3 times and then graph through each passing of zero as each wheel engages or what? ANY help would be super appreciated! I CANNOT wait to get into this safe. Also, im kinda proud ive figured this much out after only messing with this for 2 or 3 days in short bursts. Thank you guys, cant wait to hear form you!
Let me start off by saying im am a complete NEWB when it comes to this, most of my information comes from various sites (including this wonderful forum) and pdf files explaining everything from lock mechanisms to graphic, but I ran into a snag... I have an old sentry safe, given to me by my grandmother in the event of her death but I lost the combination for it, hence me wanting to try manipulating it. I feel like I should try and do it this way instead of cracking it due to money reasons and a personal interest in learning this skill but enough beating around the bush. This is what I found out:
After doing tons of research online I discovered that my sentry safe is difficult to find, but this is the internet gosh dangit so there MUST be a picture of the safe I won somewhere right?
BOOM! FOUND IT! (http://images1.showmethead.com/nlarge/1 ... 061129.jpg)
After a little more research I found out that the combination is performed in a L-R-L fashion due to instruction from another ebay listing where the seller contacted sentry (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sentry-Safe-SP- ... 5b113147c6)
Now for my experience so far. Trying to perform what I learned online, I figured out that there are only 2 wheels on this safe with the 3rd being the one actually connected to the dial. The only thing I was able to hear was the wheel clicks and not the contact points so I tried putting pressure on the handle while turning the dial and I Noticed the gates. I did this all by feel at first but then I decided to write down what I had found and how large these gates were. I found that the largest gate was between 63 and 67.5(ish). This is by far the widest, being larger than most of the others by almost 2 increments. Im assuming that this is actually the true gate, as I have heard from alot of posts that the largest gate is the true gate and if its on the dial connected to the wheel then it can most likely also be the last number in the combination.
After a round of graphing I kept getting flat graphs with no other indications (so im assuming im doing this incorrectly in my technique with engaging the wheels, either that or this safe does not graph through false gates.) One thing remained consistent however, 63-67.5 remained the largest gate. So that brings me to this post. Im either missing the concept of parking and engaging the wheels correctly or im wrongly assuming that 63-67.5 is the true gate on the dial wheel. In very basic terms (as im still learning the terminology of this all) what should I be doing from this point on? For example: should I start graphing after turning left to 0 3 times and then graph through each passing of zero as each wheel engages or what? ANY help would be super appreciated! I CANNOT wait to get into this safe. Also, im kinda proud ive figured this much out after only messing with this for 2 or 3 days in short bursts. Thank you guys, cant wait to hear form you!
