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Unknown number on a schlage primus key

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Post Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:07 pm

Unknown number on a schlage primus key

In a bunch of locks I received recently from a local locksmith was a schlage primus cylinder with a key. The key did not work, (and I ended up cutting it down for a side pin pick), but it had large numbers on the bow "000##0". Does anyone know if this was a dealer number or some other designation?? I have seen pictures of control keys with "control" stamped exactly the same.
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Post Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:30 pm

Re: Unknown number on a schlage primus key

Could be the bitting code although 000660 is a very unusual bitting. If you look at the cuts on the key do they match the numbers in terms of depth? Where the higher the number the deeper the cut is on the key? With Schlage, the bitting for a control key is the same as a user key with the exception that the control key has an extra long tip to push in the 7th pin allowing the side pin to retract inwards.
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Post Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:43 pm

Re: Unknown number on a schlage primus key

It's a registration number. Schlage can tell who the locksmith is by that number.
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Post Wed May 01, 2013 10:47 am

Re: Unknown number on a schlage primus key

Xeo - No, the keying does not match. I think the number would violate several keying rules.

Magician - That's what I thought, but I didn't want to ask the locksmith since he gave me the key by accident and I chopped it up for a Primus pick. Out of curiosity, where did you get the info that it is a dealer number?
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Post Wed May 01, 2013 11:44 am

Re: Unknown number on a schlage primus key

Magician just called your locksmith and asked. He says he needs that key back - belongs to a customer! Can you run it over to him? :mrgreen:

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Post Wed May 01, 2013 12:16 pm

Re: Unknown number on a schlage primus key

escher7 wrote:Xeo - No, the keying does not match. I think the number would violate several keying rules.

Magician - That's what I thought, but I didn't want to ask the locksmith since he gave me the key by accident and I chopped it up for a Primus pick. Out of curiosity, where did you get the info that it is a dealer number?


The company I work for deals in restricted Schlage keyways as well and what Magician said is the truth. Schlage puts the dealer number on the bow of the key so they know where it came from in the event they need to know for whatever reason. Imagine a bump key shows up at a crime scene. That would be a huge lead just to know where the bump key blank originated. From there they could start to look for places where those locks were installed and from there any "missing" keys.
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Post Wed May 01, 2013 3:18 pm

Re: Unknown number on a schlage primus key

The company I work for is a Primus dealer.
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Post Wed May 01, 2013 6:12 pm

Re: Unknown number on a schlage primus key

escher7 wrote:In a bunch of locks I received recently from a local locksmith was a schlage primus cylinder with a key. The key did not work, (and I ended up cutting it down for a side pin pick), but it had large numbers on the bow "000##0". Does anyone know if this was a dealer number or some other designation?? I have seen pictures of control keys with "control" stamped exactly the same.



I don't have it in front of me, but my Schlage Everest mortise cutaway's key has a similar number laser/dot printed on it, I'll let you know what it is when I get home. It might be interesting to compare.

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Post Wed May 01, 2013 10:27 pm

Re: Unknown number on a schlage primus key

magician59 wrote:The company I work for is a Primus dealer.


Thanks M. That assures me, but I do feel bad for trashing my locksmith's key. Then again, it might have been another locksmith's key that he grabbed from re-doing a commercial job. Oh well, I opened the lock with the pick I made from the key so At least it wasn't wasted.

Thanks for the info.
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Post Wed May 01, 2013 10:35 pm

Re: Unknown number on a schlage primus key

GWiens2001 wrote:Magician just called your locksmith and asked. He says he needs that key back - belongs to a customer! Can you run it over to him? :mrgreen:

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I just went back and changed the number to ”##” so my guy won't get a call from the great Primus god in the sky.
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Post Fri May 10, 2013 11:33 pm

Re: Unknown number on a schlage primus key

I phoned my locksmith and it was one of his keys so I sent him back the bow with his number on it. I didn't tell him that I can now open all of his locks with the sidebar bypass I made from the part I kept. (Not that I would.)

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