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chieflittlehorse

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Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:02 pm

Honda Laser Cut Keys

Hello, we are using the Bianchi Keyline 994 Laser machine to duplicate Honda keys.

But lately it seems the our copies are not working.

They go in real rough and I think I might have messed up some customers doors with our copies.

We tried grinding the edge of the keys but this didn't solve it.

I measured the thickness too and everything seems okay.

Is anyone else having these kind of problems with Honda Keys.

We're cutting the Honda keys with the remote shell in case that matters.

I know our Lexus laser cut keys work fine even though sometimes I have to file the edge in order for it to go into the ignition.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks!

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Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:19 pm

Re: Honda Laser Cut Keys

Are you sure the cutter is still good ? Any key you make on this machine should work without any filing.

The Honda laser keys have 2 cutting cards. On one of them the cuts are "deeper" into the blank. It's either 1.05 mm or 1.4mm from the side.
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chieflittlehorse

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Post Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:32 pm

Re: Honda Laser Cut Keys

With the Lexus keys we usually have no problems. A lady once came in and said she had her key cut at Sears and it worked the doors but wouldn't go into the ignition. I measured her key with my micrometer and it was a little bit thicker but not by much. So I just took out my pippin file and filed it until it was about the same as her original key. It went into her ignition just fine afterwards and she was happy.

But for the Honda keys after the machine decodes it and cuts it, it will go in hard into the lock. My boss says this doesn't happen if we buy the blanks from Honda, I guess it just happens when we buy the aftermarket keys. I'm going to start getting the measurements of this key from my micrometer next time. I know I can get the width and thickness of this key but I'm also going to measure the left over thickness from the key on the cut part to see if it's the same as their original. I might even have to measure the laser cut part of the key to see if it's the same because maybe our cutter shrank in size after cutting so many keys.

I do think we should buy a new cutter just to see if that solves the problem.

I do remember before I did any automotive seeing a locksmith file a Honda key with a flat file on the both sides of the key. He told me he did that because the Honda keys get stuck if he didn't.

Thanks for the advice Werewolf! Oh, what machine do you use because you mentions cards, our machine is digital. But we also have a machine that can trace the Honda keys but we rarely use it.

Thanks again!

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Post Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:32 pm

Re: Honda Laser Cut Keys

Those customers ... buy a lock and try them in front of the customer if need be will do wonders for you confidence

your doing a excellent job after all said and done ! :soldier:

many hours - years - decades spent checking and testing - checking and testing - checking and testing

still want to be a locksmith ! :axeem:
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Post Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:50 am

Re: Honda Laser Cut Keys

chieflittlehorse wrote:Thanks for the advice Werewolf! Oh, what machine do you use because you mentions cards, our machine is digital. But we also have a machine that can trace the Honda keys but we rarely use it.


We have a Silca Triax and a Keyline Versa.
They are both electronic. But the specifications of how the key is cut (depth , spacing , angle , ...) is also refered to as card.

I did a bit more research:
Our Keyline machine only has 1 card for these (Versa card 16), and that suits the 1.05 mm version.
Both Instacode and the Silca program have 2 cards. Silca 2354 (1.05mm) and 1587 (1.41) , Instacode 1341 (1.05) and 982 (1.41)

I think this might be your problem , i'll mail you a screenshot of the instacode cards.
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