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Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:50 pm
by nhoj_yelbom
waits to see who guess' it

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:46 am
by Nickinator
Using MBI's system, (4 deepest, 1 shallowest)
Blue Key (1) 122114
Blue Key (2) 123321
Black Key (3) 321143
Black Key (4) 141223

Pretty similar...

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:53 am
by barbarian
MBI wins. Well done.

The one cut is easy because it's so small, and the four cut is easy because it looks like it takes the entire blade.
The only real challenge is the two and three cuts. When you can move the key in your hand and compare them, it's much easier.

So if someone can cut a key, all security is lost when they get a brief look at the right key for the lock.
I'm thinking an old credit card and exacto knife, or depth and space keys and a key machine to cut two thin flat brass blanks like safe deposit keys.

The keys I have look like they were cut with a punch or clipper machine, rather than a cutter wheel.


depth.jpg

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:14 am
by LocksmithArmy
ive used credit cards to cu bilock keys.. evne befoe the bilock pdf was put out :)

i did not know there were only 4 depths though... that makes life sooo much easier

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:56 pm
by MBI
Thanks for coming up with the idea nickinator, and for posting the pics barbarian. It's nice to try something new.

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:59 am
by Nickinator
How very interesting this has been, so long story short, hide your keys and put your hand over the key as you slide it into place?

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:10 am
by magician59
I can audibly decode your key, by hearing how the pins interact with the key as you insert it. (I can also see your face through my computer screen!) muahahahahahah

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:37 am
by LocksmithArmy
while that may be a joke... id bet with some sophisticated software and a badass mic hidden close to the lock it could be possible... or atleast fun to try.

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:30 pm
by datagram
I was out of town or I would have beat MBI to answering : ) His answers are correct. BiLock is easy to visually decode. More info on the BiLock series is available here (paper was mentioned above but not linked):

http://www.lockpickingforensics.com/articles.php

dg

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:11 am
by Froggy
I've heard the metal part from the old 3"5 diskettes fit perfectly in these locks then you can cut out such a key with scissors. I never try it ... I don't have these locks