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Visually Decoding a BiLock

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Post Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:50 pm

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

waits to see who guess' it
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Post Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:46 am

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

Using MBI's system, (4 deepest, 1 shallowest)
Blue Key (1) 122114
Blue Key (2) 123321
Black Key (3) 321143
Black Key (4) 141223

Pretty similar...
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Post Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:53 am

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

MBI wins. Well done.

The one cut is easy because it's so small, and the four cut is easy because it looks like it takes the entire blade.
The only real challenge is the two and three cuts. When you can move the key in your hand and compare them, it's much easier.

So if someone can cut a key, all security is lost when they get a brief look at the right key for the lock.
I'm thinking an old credit card and exacto knife, or depth and space keys and a key machine to cut two thin flat brass blanks like safe deposit keys.

The keys I have look like they were cut with a punch or clipper machine, rather than a cutter wheel.


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Post Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:14 pm

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

ive used credit cards to cu bilock keys.. evne befoe the bilock pdf was put out :)

i did not know there were only 4 depths though... that makes life sooo much easier
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Post Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:56 am

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

Thanks for coming up with the idea nickinator, and for posting the pics barbarian. It's nice to try something new.
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Post Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:59 am

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

How very interesting this has been, so long story short, hide your keys and put your hand over the key as you slide it into place?
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Post Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:10 pm

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I can audibly decode your key, by hearing how the pins interact with the key as you insert it. (I can also see your face through my computer screen!) muahahahahahah
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Post Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:37 pm

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

while that may be a joke... id bet with some sophisticated software and a badass mic hidden close to the lock it could be possible... or atleast fun to try.
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Post Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:30 pm

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

I was out of town or I would have beat MBI to answering : ) His answers are correct. BiLock is easy to visually decode. More info on the BiLock series is available here (paper was mentioned above but not linked):

http://www.lockpickingforensics.com/articles.php

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Post Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:11 am

Re: Visually Decoding a BiLock

I've heard the metal part from the old 3"5 diskettes fit perfectly in these locks then you can cut out such a key with scissors. I never try it ... I don't have these locks
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