FAQ  •  My feedback  •  Feedback
UKLockpickers.co.uk Lockpicking supplies such as Lockpicks, tools, and more! COMMANDOLOCK.COM Military grade padlock systems lockpickshop.com A source for lockpicking supplies such as lockpicks, locksmith tools, and more!

S&G Enviro stuff

<<

Random

User avatar

Familiar Face

Posts: 133

Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:29 pm

Location: Ontario, Canada

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:21 am

S&G Enviro stuff

image.jpg


So guys I picked this today and boy it's a huge lock.
I was taking to a retired rail guy, he stated that whenever these locks had problems which was very rare he would pop them open with a good wack of a track bar. Has anyone ever tried to brute force these things open? Also is there a way to remove this chain without drilling the rivit or cutting the chain?
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
<<

Papa Gleb

User avatar

Contributor
Contributor

Posts: 1088

Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:10 pm

Location: Brooklyn, NY

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:47 pm

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

Highly doubt thats possible. Perhaps he tried that once in his life and it worked out so now he tells the story that is works all the time but did he mention the condition of that lock? Perhaps it was rusted to bits? The lockbutcher has one where the shackle busted in half, no it wasnt cut or sawed, it for some reason just busted apart.
<<

Korver15

User avatar

Familiar Face

Posts: 153

Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:29 pm

Location: Northwest Iowa

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:57 pm

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

I accidentally won one on ebay, hasnt come yet but I agree with Gleb, no way that someone consistently brutes these things open
A wise man once told me I was a unique person. Just like everyone else. Korver15 Channel
<<

MBI

User avatar

Site Owner

Posts: 1531

Joined: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:25 am

Location: Utah, USA

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:11 pm

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

Maybe he unlocked it and it was frozen shut and whacked it to dislodge whatever was keeping it closed.
<<

Papa Gleb

User avatar

Contributor
Contributor

Posts: 1088

Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:10 pm

Location: Brooklyn, NY

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:25 pm

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

I mean you holding one in hand should see that its not possible. The super thick shackle and locking balls plus this isnt a chines copy but a well made lock in the great US of A by a great S&G (solute)
<<

Robotnik

Familiar Face

Posts: 144

Joined: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:01 pm

Location: Oregon

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:56 pm

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

Korver15 wrote:I accidentally won one on ebay...


I've done this way more than I'm comfortable admitting... :smile:

Agree about brute force of a locked Enviro being near-impossible. Spent half the weekend picking, disassembling, and filing a key for a 102. Gained a new appreciation for how robust these are. Seems like even if you were slamming it with track bar, you'd wedge those balls tighter against the shackle rather than compromise them.
<<

Hugo Martel

Familiar Face

Posts: 118

Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:07 pm

Location: Quebec, Canada

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:38 pm

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

The body is a bit brittle bosnianbill shot one with a 7.something NATO and it splitted in halves... :rifle1:
Hugo Martel :circlip:
Random wrote: Here is my tip of the day "Do not fart while wearing overalls".
<<

Riyame

Keeper of the Bests / Supreme Overlord of Small Format Interchangeable Picking Nightmares

Posts: 1919

Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:16 pm

Location: Canada

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:41 pm

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

Hugo Martel wrote:The body is a bit brittle bosnianbill shot one with a 7.something NATO and it splitted in halves... :rifle1:
Hugo Martel :circlip:



That is because they use a sintered body. Basically metal powder that molded and then heated. The energy from the bullet fractured it into pieces.
PhoneMan: I always knew I'd say something stupid and it would be someone's sig
macgng: i am an equal opportunity pervert
macgng: aww fuck thats goin in someone sig :-(

If life gives you melons, you might be dyslexic.
<<

twenglish 1

Active Member

Posts: 287

Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:09 am

Location: Pennsylvania

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:34 pm

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

I posted this on my thread about these locks as I just received my first one, its a video of the testing they have done on it

https://youtu.be/zoEp4Mtt9Kw
<<

Hugo Martel

Familiar Face

Posts: 118

Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:07 pm

Location: Quebec, Canada

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:48 pm

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

I was not sure about what kind of metal was used. Thanks to point out!! they make power tools gears this way too I think

Hugo Martel :circlip:
Random wrote: Here is my tip of the day "Do not fart while wearing overalls".
<<

Hugo Martel

Familiar Face

Posts: 118

Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:07 pm

Location: Quebec, Canada

Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:52 pm

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

Random wrote:
image.jpg

Also is there a way to remove this chain without drilling the rivit or cutting the chain?



Yes disolving the chain or the rivet into acid... LOL not the way you are looking for hen?? I dont see any way to remove it without cutting or drilling anything ... Sorry

Hugo Martel :circlip:
Random wrote: Here is my tip of the day "Do not fart while wearing overalls".
<<

Random

User avatar

Familiar Face

Posts: 133

Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:29 pm

Location: Ontario, Canada

Post Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:08 am

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

Hugo Martel wrote:
Random wrote:
image.jpg

Also is there a way to remove this chain without drilling the rivit or cutting the chain?



Yes disolving the chain or the rivet into acid... LOL not the way you are looking for hen?? I dont see any way to remove it without cutting or drilling anything ... Sorry

Hugo Martel :circlip:


I have tendency to ask a question already know the answer too just to see someone else's response.

Epic answer Hugo lol
<<

Random

User avatar

Familiar Face

Posts: 133

Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:29 pm

Location: Ontario, Canada

Post Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:10 am

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

I saw one disassembled today, WOW thats some big balls. I feel he was fishing me a line.

Return to Sargent & Greenleaf

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: CommonCrawl [Bot]

Don't forget to visit our sponsors for all of your lockpicking needs!
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Grop
"CA Black" theme designed by stsoftware