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Post Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:57 pm

round cylinder type key, advice?

My son is bringing his cheap safe over to me this weekend to see if I can get access and I presume he wont supply the key in case I cheat.
It is a digital electronic with a key override. The key is the round cylinder type and my plan is to go for the key override as I dont know anything regarding the digital side of things. I intend to try the `ballpoint pen` method first and hope I hit lucky.
If this fails are these locks (cylinder) easy to pick or do I need special tools?

the safe will be similar to the image below.
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Post Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:27 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

check out "safe bouncing" on youtube.
As for tools I use a tubular pick purchased from Southord.

Can't recall where I have seen home made tools, but others here will be able to.

Good luck getting it open.
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Post Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:50 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

Thanks jharveee I will have a look at that. Its just a £30 safe so dont anticipate too much problem. I am only 4 weeks in to this but managing SSP on euro locks so family are throwing challenges at me, keep em coming I say!
I just gotta beat the challenge :-)
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Post Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:06 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

http://youtu.be/GsTSHeXkN5Q

Not sure how to send links to vids yet.
Youtube Has several videos on picking tubular locks.
Many how to, some with homemade tools.

I've been told that you will have to pick the lock several times depending on how far you need to rotate the cam on back... and pick it back to the locked position.
Something to Remember before getting started.
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Post Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:15 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

jharveee wrote:check out "safe bouncing" on youtube...

:agree: I'm not familiar with those little 'el-cheapos' and have never had the opportunity to try 'bouncing'....
but definitely worth a try and I'd love to hear if you have success. Again, I've never tried it, but it doesn't
look like you'd have to be rough with it. Seems to be more a game of timing than anything. Good luck!
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Post Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:22 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

Ok, found a better example with home made tension wrench.

http://youtu.be/cy0pqpH3C1I
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Post Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:45 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

Thanks again for update, if need be I will make a tension wrench to suit.
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Post Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:16 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

Hit it with the palm of your hand on top and turn the handle-nob at the same time it will open in seconds ! high security yep

no tools required :D love to see your sons face when you open it in seconds the vibration on top over the door causes the locking bolt to jump a flaw in these safes.
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Post Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:18 am

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

Ha ha I hope so. Only been doing this for 4 weeks and I am beginning to think are any locks worth having. Managed all the locks in the house so far, ok not all by SPP as yet but scary how I have managed to open every one so far.
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Post Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:22 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

Oldfast wrote:
jharveee wrote:check out "safe bouncing" on youtube...

:agree: I'm not familiar with those little 'el-cheapos' and have never had the opportunity to try 'bouncing'....
but definitely worth a try and I'd love to hear if you have success. Again, I've never tried it, but it doesn't
look like you'd have to be rough with it. Seems to be more a game of timing than anything. Good luck!

I have bounced a couple cheap safes. Some I managed to open, others I haven't. It's not the force, it's the timing. If you are already forcing to turn when you hit it, it doesnt open. If you do it too late, it doesn't too. It has to be perfect timing.

Here's a video that also explains how the bouncing works (as well as other techniques to open them):


Let us know how it goes
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Post Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:53 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

Well he brought his £50 Yale safe over tonight, 5 seconds and I was in :-) He was so pissed of with how quickly he said just keep that piece of cheap s...! ha ha.
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Post Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:04 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

Did you bounce it or use a tubular lock pick?

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Post Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:13 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

Bounced it. I also showed him the vulnerability of accessing from the back. I need to make a tensioner for the `round` lock but using a normal tensioner I can get some of the pins set, just my tensioner wont stay in position. Shouldnt be a problem picking it.
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Post Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:09 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

Boing! :hammering:

Nice Job.
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Post Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:21 pm

Re: round cylinder type key, advice?

This is a 20 second clip of me bumping the cheapo safe open. sorry about the sound camera going loopy again.

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