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western electric lock

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:24 am
by rai
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,968376,00.html

has anyone ever gotten any new ideas on this

This is not the only news story, he got caught and there was a trial in the news.
time magazine did a story on him while he was at large before he got caught, about a year or two before.

its a very difficult story to chase on google.

at various times I have seen different archives of these stories.

Matt Blaze did articles on the locks, and he believes no one ever picked one. he thinks this story is a myth, but I saw it when it was first published and I think the newyorktimes covered it when the guy was caught in southern california

there has been a really effecient coverup of the evidence of how this guys tool worked.

better covered up than the FBI's h edward tickel story

Re: western electric lock

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:39 am
by huxleypig
Interesting post. This is the one with the teeth to grab the levers, right? So you can't tension the lock like you normally would?

Well, if Bell say it's impossible then it must be! If this guy did it then it has to be possible.

What is the Edward Tickel story?

Re: western electric lock

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:48 am
by rai
h edward tickel was an FBI lockpicker, he got caught safe breaking in the FBI cafeteria and some more stuff.
he is mentioned on blackbag.nl barry wels site.
he apparently attended a chaos computer convention or some such in germany a few years back

Theres also an article in the last year or so in wired magazine on the CIA's renegade lockpicker

Re: western electric lock

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:01 am
by huxleypig
Just been googling him. Interesting stuff, makes you wonder what they got at the moment!

Regarding the WE30C, yes, I fully believe it can be picked.

Re: western electric lock

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:08 am
by rai
Wow, google has the wired magazine on the CIA guy also covered up I couldn't find it and I think I still have the magazine around somewhere.

all they come up with is an article on mark weber tobias

Re: western electric lock

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:47 am
by GWiens2001
Anything can be picked, given enough understanding of the lock itself, and skill and enginuity of the picker. There are many locks that I am unable to pick. That does not mean that they can not be picked.

Gordon

Re: western electric lock

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:27 am
by rai
I was wrong about the wired magazine article on Douglas Groat,
That was smithsonian Magazine
I tried to paste the articles url on here but I keep getting pdf that has nothing to do with it when I try

Just google CIA lockpicker