piotr wrote:Schuyler was/is a darling of lp101 and lp101 was Schuyler's main forum for communicating (even when he was supposed to be working on his Kickstarter project but wasn't). There is a strong current of groupthink on lp101 and this makes any criticism -- however warranted -- very (socially) costly and hence unlikely. The ownership and management of lp101 has the most to learn from the monumental fuck-up that is "Open Locksport" and Schuyler Towne. For that reason I find your post platitudinous and offensive. The plain truth is that if I went on lp101 to chastise Schuyler Towne I likely would have my post deleted and account closed (I don't value my lp101 account, I created one just so that I could send a PM to Legion303). Why isn't a parallel discussion on this very topic occuring on lp101? The scale of Schuyler's shafting of the community was so large that he should be formally deemed to be of bad reputation. Has he been so deemed on lp101? If not, why not?
piotr,
You seem like such a bitter curmudgeon all the time, for such a well written person, I expect more manners from you than being such an lp101 hater and for stringing your conspiracy theories together so poorly as to suggest lp101 management are somehow covering for Schuyler. May I remind you that before keypicking, ezpicking, or any other forum, lp101 was the first and only place other than alt.locksmithing for people in our community to get together, exchange ideas, learn, buy and sell? Like any community, there will be people like Romstar, who I may assure you we all hate at lp101, and Schuyler is nobody's favorite either. I'm happy to be here as a guest and I am open to being friendly with everyone, because I feel our community is too small for infighting and factions.
I invite you to post any constructive criticisms about him under your current name on lp101, and I guarantee that it wont get censored or pulled or edited or deleted by any of the mods or admins, unless it breaks the rule of becoming a personal attack on another forum member. (Example: Appropriate: "I feel Schuyler ran things very poorly, and I don't trust him anymore" Inappropriate personal attack: "Schuyler stole my money on purpose, he's a crook, and lp101 admins are covering for him" A lot of us are very pissed at Schuyler, very disappointed, and most of us have written him off. I don't honestly buy the mental illness line, to me its more of a 25 year old kid with a ton of cash suddenly who uses it to pay rent and groceries and fix his car, and then ran into a bunch of bad luck and bad personal decisions. He also suffered from trying to be a perfectionist instead of just getting some sort of picks to the people who backed the project.
You seem to be very highly opinionated, and talk as if you have it all figured out, and I sir, am offended by your reply to my post here. Where do you get off being such a prick to me? Would you say this shit in person if we were having a beer at a bar, or is it only something you do while hiding behind your keyboard? Did you even invest in the kickstarter project? and if so, may I ask how much did you pay to feel that you have every right to shit on Schuyler and for some reason on lp101? Was it $20 dollars worth? $75? And if you're going to formulate opinions of how lp101 is run or who we endorse or don't endorse, what did the forum ever do to you? I will not have you badmouthing lp101, unless you actually become a member and give it a chance. lp101 admins, mods, or management does not control the actions or business plans of members, be it Romstar or Schuyler, so I feel it's totally unfair for you to suggest we have any responsibility for their actions, or that we are in any way covering for them. I could care less what you say about Schuyler, short of suggesting his plan all along was to steal $89,000 from investors, which I do not believe to be the case, please also know that when Schuyler had his NDE magazine, at the time, I was a member on lp101, not a mod or admin, and the management didn't allow him to post any links at all to his magazine. So much for him being an lp101 darling, believe me he's just another member. A well known member, but just another member.
I have no beef with you, but you seem to have a chip on your shoulder. try being a nice person for a chance, and give others a chance.
Squelchtone