happy days! =) medeco smackdown & THANKS jruther2

[awol70]

yeah...picked to shear,then gently eased off tension and tickled them into submission with
my custom boga.
(yet another type of lock to add to the boga menu)
i worked my way up,starting with no sidebar,5 pins,then swiched over to
a 6-pinner with sidebar,with only the front two chambers pinned,and
worked my way up from there...(up to four now ..)
gotta say thanks a mint, jruther2 for giving me these locks NQA.
awesome act of kindness,which enabled me to learn a lot about medeco locks.

[jruther2]

AWESOME! I knew it was just a matter of time. Great work man! Now get that time down so we can all watch you do it!

[awol70]

(woohoo) AWESOME! I knew it was just a matter of time. Great work man! Now get that time down so we can all watch you do it!

thanks ,man =p
well,i guess ,all i can do is keep at it..i really want do be able to pick a fully populated 6-pin
with an unknown bitting ,but that is beyond what i can do now.
crawl-walk-run, right ? =)
thanks again for all your help and the locks.
(my difficulty is similar to what you encountered,...rotating the pins with a wire is REALLY hard!)
have you made any progress with your medecoder?

[crazy]

Goes on ! I want see the video man

[awol70]

Goes on ! I want see the video man

if i can get past 4 pins...
three was hard...four was bad....five,....makes me mental....(takes me forever..)
six pins seems a million miles away right now...

[jruther2]

have you made any progress with your medecoder?

Honestly, I limit myself to about 15 mins/day at the most with my hands on it. Newborn in the house+medeco picking gets me real close to feeling homicidal!

I'm spending most of my picking time just trying to relax and enjoy clicks from easier locks. However, I have been working up a theory in my head about picking medecos ccw. The explanation is kinda wordy but suffice to say that I am having some success. Again...crawl-walk-run. If I have great success everyone will know!

[frantic57744]

good job on that one,, it can be a highly effective stepping stone adding the pins one by one,, gonna set my stall out to get my hands on a medeco + mulT lock, bring it on !!

[awol70]

have you made any progress with your medecoder?

Honestly, I limit myself to about 15 mins/day at the most with my hands on it. Newborn in the house+medeco picking gets me real close to feeling homicidal!

I'm spending most of my picking time just trying to relax and enjoy clicks from easier locks. However, I have been working up a theory in my head about picking medecos ccw. The explanation is kinda wordy but suffice to say that I am having some success. Again...crawl-walk-run. If I have great success everyone will know!

glad to hear you are stiil able to free up time to pick.
can you help define how i tell if a pin is properly set,once picked to the shearline?
is there an effective way to easily tell ?
seems they either rattle,or dont move at all..
ID'ing the properly rotated pins,after setting 2 or three becomes increasingly hard...
still waiting on that X-Ray vision, and eating carrots just isn't working..=/

[jruther2]

glad to hear you are stiil able to free up time to pick.
can you help define how i tell if a pin is properly set,once picked to the shearline?
is there an effective way to easily tell ?
seems they either rattle,or dont move at all..
ID'ing the properly rotated pins,after setting 2 or three becomes increasingly hard...

You pretty much said it.
After the pins are set to shear the ones that are properly rotated rattle freely regardless of how much tension is applied. At this point I push up on all of the pins while applying fairly heavy tension with the lock upside down. That is: with the springs pointing toward the ground (obviously not possible if the lock is static but we're still learning right). As you lift the pins, you may be able to feel some light friction on the ones that need rotating. If you cant feel the friction, look for the pins that don't just fall back down after being lifted: they are the ones that are binding with the sidebar. As tension is slowly released, the pins that were binding on the teeth of the sidebar will eventually fall although not as freely as the properly rotated pins fell.

* I should mention that I did not come up with this on my own. JK did this in one of his excellent vids where he was explaining the use of the Medecoder*

If you're lucky, you can look in the lock and see this happening. If not you have to repeat this process on each individual pin while feeling for it with your hook.

This is quite difficult for me especially if one of the first few pins is set very low (or is it high? what I mean is if it was a pin that is set by a very deep cut in the key) because it gets in the way.

Perhaps there is a better way but that's how I'm doing it for now. If someone knows a better method then by all means enlighten me!

[awol70]

glad to hear you are stiil able to free up time to pick.
can you help define how i tell if a pin is properly set,once picked to the shearline?
is there an effective way to easily tell ?
seems they either rattle,or dont move at all..
ID'ing the properly rotated pins,after setting 2 or three becomes increasingly hard...

You pretty much said it.
After the pins are set to shear the ones that are properly rotated rattle freely regardless of how much tension is applied. At this point I push up on all of the pins while applying fairly heavy tension with the lock upside down. That is: with the springs pointing toward the ground (obviously not possible if the lock is static but we're still learning right). As you lift the pins, you may be able to feel some light friction on the ones that need rotating. If you cant feel the friction, look for the pins that don't just fall back down after being lifted: they are the ones that are binding with the sidebar. As tension is slowly released, the pins that were binding on the teeth of the sidebar will eventually fall although not as freely as the properly rotated pins fell.

* I should mention that I did not come up with this on my own. JK did this in one of his excellent vids where he was explaining the use of the Medecoder*

If you're lucky, you can look in the lock and see this happening. If not you have to repeat this process on each individual pin while feeling for it with your hook.

This is quite difficult for me especially if one of the first few pins is set very low (or is it high? what I mean is if it was a pin that is set by a very deep cut in the key) because it gets in the way.

Perhaps there is a better way but that's how I'm doing it for now. If someone knows a better method then by all means enlighten me!

that actually helps a lot.
thank you.
(and JK =) )