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Abus Fetish

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:02 am
by UnlockD
I must say I'm a sucker for these locks - I find they're tons of fun to pick, especially the 55/50. The keyway on it gives a bit of a challenge.
It kinda drives me crazy though; I can pick the Diskus 28/70 like it's nothing, I kinda just look at it weird and it opens but I cannot for the life of me pick open a Master Diskus.
Anyways, I just thought I'd share my love of these locks, they can be quite fun.
What are your techniques? I find the tolerances can make SPPing a bit hard but they rake open rather well.

Re: Abus Fetish

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:08 am
by xeo
Check out the Abus TS-5000 ;)

Re: Abus Fetish

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:26 am
by UnlockD
I should probably edit my post to say I USED to be a sucker for those locks.. what a nightmare of an Abus.

Re: Abus Fetish

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:27 am
by xeo
About picking them... I've had my fair share of Abus padlocks. On literally every single one of them the pin configuration was like this:

:spool: :stddriver: :spool: :spool: :spool: :spool:


:stddriver: :spool: :spool: :spool: :spool: :spool:

You always seem to want to set that :stddriver: because it is wider on the shearline and "binds" first but isn't actually the true binding pin. What usually ends up happening is I pick the :stddriver: , immediate false set, then find a binding spool, lift, it, set it, and the :stddriver: drops back down keeping that spool set then you lose the false set until you raise it again. Rinse and repeat until it opens. You can actually set the spools before the :stddriver: if you try hard enough and the lock lets you. As far as the keyway goes, they're kind of Yale-like with that annoying curve. You just have to practice pick-twisting or angling off the warding with a shallow hook.

Re: Abus Fetish

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:41 am
by GWiens2001
You want an easier ABUS? How about this core that came in an ABUS 83/80:


And the key:


It should be easier than the TS-5000!


Re: Abus Fetish

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:43 am
by xeo

Re: Abus Fetish

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:38 am
by Neilau
I bought an Abus disk recently, hoping to get a bit of a challenge - what a disappointment. As you said, look at it angrily and they open.

I have opened a lot of Master disks (about 25 -30) and have never found a difficult one, ever. Use a half diamond (small) and rake/jiggle, it should pop fairly easily. I admit that I haven't SPP one yet. That is a skill that I am just developing. I am a fair old scrubber though. :mrgreen:

For a real challenge try a Lockwood disc. Only four (small) pins and several spools but VERY well made. - Ask Oldfast.

If you want to try one and can't get them. PM me and maybe we can arrange a trade.