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ABUS 90/50 BROKEN KEY REMOVAL

PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:28 pm
by 10ringo10
Was hoping to make a key from broken key for this pad ! but no luck after removing the broken key and cutting a new one :D fun lock to pick

photos to follow

Re: ABUS 90/50 BROKEN KEY REMOVAL

PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:29 pm
by ARF-GEF
were you impressioning it Ringo?

Re: ABUS 90/50 BROKEN KEY REMOVAL

PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:36 pm
by 10ringo10
ARF-GEF wrote:were you impressioning it Ringo?


I tried for a good few hours and no luck at all to impression this beast !

Re: ABUS 90/50 BROKEN KEY REMOVAL

PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:28 pm
by MBI
Are you sure it's the correct key for the lock? If not, I wonder if the previous owner used the wrong key on the lock, tried a bit TOO hard to turn it, and broke off the key and thats why your copy didn't work.

Re: ABUS 90/50 BROKEN KEY REMOVAL

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:32 am
by 10ringo10
I Have not come across the abus 90/50 pad lock before ..so did a bit of searching and on this stainless steel abus the core can not be removed !

There are other abus 90/50 that the core can be removed on.... and yes mbi you are correct it is not the correct key !

I guess the owner will not want it back now ! ah ah

Re: ABUS 90/50 BROKEN KEY REMOVAL

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:24 am
by femurat
Every lock can be disassembled. Some can not be reassembled afterwards :soldier:

I agree impressioning is the way to go. Get some help by analyzing the picked pins height and make a quick drawing of the bittings if you wish. Then slowly impression it.

Cheers :)

Re: ABUS 90/50 BROKEN KEY REMOVAL

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:14 pm
by Oldfast
Nice lock! I'm a sucker for the shrouded one's :)

Re: ABUS 90/50 BROKEN KEY REMOVAL

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:19 pm
by MBI
femurat wrote:Every lock can be disassembled. Some can not be reassembled afterwards

That made me laugh. Thank you for thinking outside the box and giving us a more refreshing perspective.

I guess a more apt description of a "lock that can be disassembled" could be something more like "a lock that is designed to be serviced via disassembly and reassembly."

Re: ABUS 90/50 BROKEN KEY REMOVAL

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:24 pm
by rai
What femurat said, the key as best I can see it has about 3 different cuts in the bitting, all very close together,
pick this lock and while the plug is turned, take a diamond pick and ride it up and down over the pins, watch the shaft of the diamond pick and see if the bumping along the pins corresponds to what you see on the broken key, and deep or high pins will be easy to learn the positions of.
if the bumping diamond pick riding along the pins that are stopped by the cylinder wall, corresponds to the broken key, it may be that the broken key is a bad copy that is near the true bitting but just does not fit.
if you are familiar with impressioning, you know how you have a key that is not turning until you finally get it right and suddenly it turns, often turns hard because its too tight and this will leave heavy marks on the key blade so even after getting it to turn, you still have to file it a bit more,
a bad fitting key that works this way is cut too high, a key that is cut just a bit low, will not open the lock until you lift the key in the keyway or withdraw it until the pins climb a bit on the peaks and the key sort of picks it open.