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Picking an Abus 20/70?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:49 am
by johnopsec
Can the ABUS 20/70 (ABUS-Plus) style lock be picked with this:

http://www.uklockpickers.co.uk/oscommer ... 7a5jl3esf7


Here is the lock I'm talking about:
http://www.1st-in-padlocks.com/2070-ext ... -p-10.html

I bought the pick already... Now, I'm looking for a decent lock to play with. :D

If the answer is no, I've got two follow-up questions...

(1) Does anyone make a pick that will work on the ABUS-Plus? I'd imagine that a rotating anti-drill plate would be the problem if the pick I ordered won't work. Maybe the other set of disc-detainer picks that uklockpickers sells would work?

(2) Where can I find a decent lock that my pick WILL work on? Someplace within CONUS would be preferable to limit the cost and shipping time.

Re: Picking an Abus 20/70?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:29 pm
by HallisChalmers
johnopsec wrote:Can the ABUS 20/70 (ABUS-Plus) style lock be picked with this:

http://www.uklockpickers.co.uk/oscommer ... 7a5jl3esf7


Here is the lock I'm talking about:
http://www.1st-in-padlocks.com/2070-ext ... -p-10.html

I bought the pick already... Now, I'm looking for a decent lock to play with. :D

If the answer is no, I've got two follow-up questions...

(1) Does anyone make a pick that will work on the ABUS-Plus? I'd imagine that a rotating anti-drill plate would be the problem if the pick I ordered won't work. Maybe the other set of disc-detainer picks that uklockpickers sells would work?

(2) Where can I find a decent lock that my pick WILL work on? Someplace within CONUS would be preferable to limit the cost and shipping time.


I tried that pick on an Abus that I have and couldn't get it to work with that "D" shaped keyway.

However, I have been trying to work my voodoo on a SOBO lock - which has that hour-glass shaped keyway that fits the pick quite nicely.

Here's a link to their line of locks: http://sobolocks.com/

They are very nice locks and are available here: http://www.padlocks4less.com/shop/padlocks/high-security

Here are some other sources for others that may work (but they are so damn expensive!) : http://www.lockitt.com/PadlockHighSecurity.htm#xenabullett

Don't really know if you need an alarm function on the lock - but you never can tell.

Hope this helps, John.

Re: Picking an Abus 20/70?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:02 pm
by johnopsec
HallisChalmers wrote:[color=#BFFF00]I tried that pick on an Abus that I have and couldn't get it to work with that "D" shaped keyway.


Hrm... Could the tool be modified to fit the keyway and work? IE; is it the tension part that won't fit or the probe or both?

However, I have been trying to work my voodoo on a SOBO lock - which has that hour-glass shaped keyway that fits the pick quite nicely.

Here's a link to their line of locks: http://sobolocks.com/

They are very nice locks and are available here: http://www.padlocks4less.com/shop/padlocks/high-security



Thanks man. Just ordered one. We'll see when it gets here. ;)

Re: Picking an Abus 20/70?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:42 pm
by HallisChalmers
johnopsec wrote:
HallisChalmers wrote:[color=#BFFF00]I tried that pick on an Abus that I have and couldn't get it to work with that "D" shaped keyway.


Hrm... Could the tool be modified to fit the keyway and work? IE; is it the tension part that won't fit or the probe or both?



Actually I mis-spoke. It's not an Abus, its an Abloy. I have two Abloys - a small 1 - 3/8" brass padlock and a cylindrical cam lock. On both of mine, the probe paddle and tensioner are too big to fit in the "D" shaped keyways.

The keys measure 7/16" of inch approx in width - but neither the tension or pick probe will enter the keyway.

Re: Picking an Abus 20/70?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:04 pm
by GutterClown
HallisChalmers wrote:Actually I mis-spoke. It's not an Abus, its an Abloy. I have two Abloys - a small 1 - 3/8" brass padlock and a cylindrical cam lock. On both of mine, the probe paddle and tensioner are too big to fit in the "D" shaped keyways.

The keys measure 7/16" of inch approx in width - but neither the tension or pick probe will enter the keyway.

Abloy "Classic"