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Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:03 pm
by aerol
I recently purchased an Abus 72/40 on eBay. After watching several YouTube videos, I was a little surprised to find that my lock had a completely different keyway than those I found there.

Here's a pic of my lock:

http://i.imgur.com/zWtEgTm.jpg

You could drive a truck through that keyway.

Here's a image of the other keyway:

http://i.imgur.com/MVNYKGL.jpg

It's also not the challenging lock that others have commented on. I haven't gutted it, but it appears to be 5 spools and the Abus-typical standard pin in one position. Tolerances are not high, there's quite a bit of play in the cylinder, and I can pick it in 20-30 seconds.

There is no country of origin marking on the packaging, but there is a vendor sticker from a tag-out/lock-out supplier on the box that says made in China. Some YouTube commentators (including bosnianbill) indicate that theirs (with the other keyway) were made in Germany.

Does anyone have any information on this difference?

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:44 pm
by Doogs
I'd guess someone switched out the core assuming you didn't get it new. That's definitely not like any Abus keyway I've seen!

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:05 pm
by flywheel
Picture of the blue lock looks like a Brady LOTO keyway.

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:45 pm
by aerol
flywheel wrote:Picture of the blue lock looks like a Brady LOTO keyway.


OK, I think that explains it. The vendor I mentioned above is BradyID. Do they contract these cores from Abus? Because it has a set of Abus-branded keys that work with it.

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:47 am
by Anarchy_won
here is a 72/40 key way I have in my collection.
https://i.imgur.com/vKGMFk1.jpg
(well I have 2.) if you want one with a smaller key way I would be willing to trade ;)

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:14 am
by rerun12
im tellin ya man, those damn chinese and their lock fuckery seems to grow every year. shitty that the seller wasnt informed/or had the integrity to tell you what it rly is..but, live an learn.

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:33 am
by Evan intermediate
I was trying to figure out what the hell keyway my 72/40 had .. i searched all abus keyways and was stumped unmtil i read this post... Thankyou ..
The brady loto keyway that you have have y0ou found a key for it or do you know the model number ?

[quote][/quote]I MIGHT BR interested in TRADING locks ....?

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:46 am
by MightyMouse
You will notice that the OP's lock's keyway says ABUS when read on its side.

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:33 pm
by jeffmoss26
This is an old thread, but I never replied to it.
I personally have Abus 72/40 in 3 versions: American/AM3 keyway, Yale/Y52 keyway, and Abus proprietary keyway. There could possibly be others.

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:33 am
by Evan intermediate
jeffmoss26 wrote:This is an old thread, but I never replied to it.
I personally have Abus 72/40 in 3 versions: American/AM3 keyway, Yale/Y52 keyway, and Abus proprietary keyway. There could possibly be others.




COuld you show us the pics of those 3 keyways>? this is the one i have and they are on every black 72/40 ive ever seen in vancouver the gas companies use them :kik:

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:00 pm
by plugspin
I've got a Brady/ABUS like this too, although it's a lockout/tagout lock. I dont have the model off-hand. But I did find the keyway amusing.

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:45 pm
by WestCoastPicks
This is Abus's restricted keyway. IF you look at it sideways it spells ABUS. It's pretty crazy but nowhere near as bad as their WW Keyway.

Usually the bow of the key will have a couple letters on it, like TT or WW this is how I determine the keyways. I'll try to post a pic of the WW Keyway later today.

Re: Variations in 72/40 keyways?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:12 pm
by jeffmoss26
The 3 I have are American AM3, Yale Y52, and the one that spell Abus.