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My first two picks

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:12 pm
by twenglish 1
I just recieved my lockpick set today, so far i was able to pick an old lock from a door knob and a master padlock, i was surprised the master pad lock was advertized as pick resistant and i had it open in less than 10 seconds, here are pictures of my set of picks and the two locks i opened, and i also attempted the brinks disk padlock but i could not get it open

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:31 pm
by jharveee
Nice Job!
Are those picks from Sparrows?
Which pick do you prefer? I started out raking every lock. Then slowly moved into using a Hook for single pin picking.

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:45 pm
by Neilau
Good job.

Neat feeling when the cylinder turns. :D

Chalk up another "First" for a Master. :hbg:

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:10 pm
by twenglish 1
I purchased the picks online from locksmithshop dot com, I have tried a few different picks but I seem to have had the most success with the snake rake :snakerake:

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:08 pm
by Deadlock
jharveee wrote:Are those picks from Sparrows?


SouthOrd PXS-14.

Ah, the good ol' :snakerake:. Yup, the first pin tumbler lock I ever opened was with one of them.

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:00 pm
by twenglish 1
Yes it is the southord PXS-14, any pointers on picking that Brinks Disk lock? I can't get anywhere with it

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:05 pm
by Neilau
Hi Twinglish.

I’m not familiar with the Brinks version of the disk lock but I have experience with a few other models.

They vary in quality. The Master version will generally open fairly quickly with the “good ole snake”. The Abus version will pop open in fright if you give it a dirty look. :twisted:

For a quality version like the Lockwood and I assume the Brinks you will need a short hook and a bit (lot ?) of practice.

I had several Lockwoods that I spent many hours – stretching over a couple of years – trying to open. In desperation I sent one off to Oldfast and he opened it. Just knowing that it could be done was a big boost and after a few more attempts I got it. Then proceeded to open the rest.

I can now do them no problem but they are not easy.

In summary. If it is a good quality cylinder, made to tight tolerances, you will need a short hook :shorthook: and SPP it.

Don’t give up. If you can’t get it. Put it away for a week or two and come back to it.

Eventually you’ll get it and OH what a feeling.....

PS can you post a bigger photo of the Brinks?

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:04 pm
by twenglish 1
Here i have posted a better picture of the Brinks disk lock, i have tried and tried but i cant seem to be able to set a single pin! it seems there is a very fine tolerance in the required tension, its either too little to get the pins to set and i add a slight bit more tension and the pins bind up. However i just added a brinks padlock to my list of picks! it was tougher than the master pad lock, but i was able to get it open in a minute or so using the :shorthook:

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:47 pm
by Doogs
Nice picking TW.
I'm not sure about the Brinks disk but one of my Brinks was a snap, easy as a Master, but the other was a bitch. It had two spools drivers one in #2 and another in #4 pin chambers.

I can't say for sure that's a normal setup but try it and when you get a bind on one of those ease up on your tension a hair and check for counter rotation when you try to set them. It was my first experience with spool pins and it took me a lot of hours and some youtubing with Bosnian Bill to figure out what was going on and how to defeat them.

Hope this helps!

Neilau surprised you say that about the Diskus Mines the cheap 24/70 and it's fully loaded with serrated drivers. Not the worst pick but a little frustrating at first

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:54 pm
by twenglish 1
I will continue to try this brinks disk lock, I was really surprised at how easy the master pad lock was, especially since it said it was pick resistsnt, I had it open in about 15 seconds, and I hardly know what I'm doing haha

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:16 pm
by twenglish 1
I found an old herculock laying around the house, counted 5 pins in it and figured it might be a challenge to pick, i had no luck with spp so i decided to try this rake :cityrake:, put the tension wrench in, applied some light tension and one jab of the rake across the pins and the lock opened! so much for a challenge haha

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:59 pm
by Neilau
twinglish

Something that I forgot to mention Re: the disc lock.

The shackle is usually under very heavy spring tension. You may have picked it and don't know it because the torsion needed to turn the cylinder is quite heavy.

Try using heavy tension when SPPing it.

Open it with the key and see how much tension is needed to turn it. This is a good indication of how much spring tension you have to overcome.

I have found that a tension tool that allows a bit of flex works best. You put enough tension on it to actually bend the tool while you are picking.

Hope this helps.

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:41 am
by jeffmoss26
Nice Herculock...I collect them along with WB so let me know if you are interested in a trade!!

Re: My first two picks

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:54 am
by Papa Gleb
Hey bud, welcome and good to hear you've experience the reason we all do this... that plug turning is a victory moment. The length of that moment varies on the lock. Best of luck.