Locks who they use discs : Abus Plus Granit etc

[KokomoLock]

Great job Marco, you are slaying them!!!!

[MARCO]

Hi KokomoLock ,


Thanks a lot for your encouragements.



See you soon.

[MARCO]

HI,


The padlocks with discs, there are two types :

Le padlocks when they open, it's impossible the key to come off the padlock, because one of side of shackle is always in padlock.
Examples : Abus granit 37/55 - Abus 88/50 - Abus 88/40 - Abus 89/50 - Abus 89/40 and some chinese disc padlocks.

Le padlocks when they open, it's possible the key to come off the padlock, beacause the two sides of shacles are outside of padlock.
Examples : Abus Granit 37/60 - Abus Granit 37/80 and some chinese disc padlocks.

For the second type, it's easy to cheat with picture. This is why, I made a vidéo for the Abus Granit 37/80. Now that I made a vidéo the Abus Granit 37/80, I can put the pictures of Abus Granit 37/60.



Here the two Abus 37/60





Here its advertising. It's write : Impossible to pick (mécanisme incrochetable).





Here The old Abus 37/60.
The difference between the new and the old is the head of the key.







See you soon.

[MARCO]

Hi,


Today I introduce you a new video.
I Hope, you will like this video.
This video shows the Abus Granit Power X Plus picked by me.
Abus tells us : Abus X Plus is the High-Tech anti-theft for big motobike is better than Abus Plus.
Abus Granit Power X Plus 58/140 HB III is High-Tech with more than 1 million key variations and and blocking mechanism for the top protection against picking attacks .

In France, It is approuved by all assurances and they are labotaories tested by SRA, FFMS AFNOR, and NF.

The price is very High.

And yet, it is easy to pick !

Motobikers are duped by makers.

The makers and labotaories ought to employ locpickers for to be credible.




Here the link of Abus's catolog

http://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?ScreenLa ... 318066610m



Here the advertising






Here the video







The tool look like at Jaakko's decoder tool, but is not the same.




See you soon.

[HallisChalmers]

Very nicely done Marco. Excellent work.

[MARCO]

Hi HallisChalmers,


Thanks a lot for your encouragements.

I will make a video an other model .


See you soon.

[MARCO]

Hi,


Now, I think that you're begining to know to me. And you know, that for me, to pick 1 Abus X Plus is not satisfactory.


This time, I picked the tops of Abus Granit X Plus :
The Abus Granit Extreme X Plus 59/180 HB 310

It's very, very, very expensive.
And yet, it's easy to pick !

I love Abus Plus and Abus X Plus, It's a pleasure to pick them.






Here the link of Abus's catolog

http://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?ScreenLa ... 318201875m




Here the advertising







Here the video






See you soon.

[MARCO]

Hi every body,


Yet one more.

Abus Ganit X plus 54
This one has got. 8 discs instead than 10 discs.

Here the link of Abus's catolog

http://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?ScreenLa ... 3318229756


Here the advertising






Here the video








Nobody has questions about how use effectively the Jakko's tool or the Marco's Tool ?
For me there are two important rules
Do you know already or don't you be curious or are you afraid of me ?

I don't bite , my english is poor, so to share in english ask to me a lot of work, but I like to share the informations.



See you soon.

[MARCO]

Hi,

I have a good surprise for you.
I made an autopsy of my Abus Granit X Plus 54, for you show, how works special mecanical systeme X (blocking discs)
I worked very hard, because I can't speak english, but I wanted to try to comment in english for you. I hope you are going to understand, and you are going to enjoy this autopsy (videos 1 and 2) .

If you don't understand something, tell me what, I will answer to you with pleasure.


Here the video part 1





Here the video part 2







See you soon.

[Wizer]

Great, Marco. Thank you for the video. Now even I understand the tricks you do to the lock before picking.
So after disingaging the disc blocker you turn the last disk 90 degrees because of that last spacer, right? And then just use Jaakkos pick like on any older models?
What about those locks with a butterfly disc in the front? Where would you tension them?
Keep up the good work, Marco!!

[MARCO]

Hi Wizer ,

Thanks a lot to have told me what you thought of interest of my vidéo and if my english is understandable. This is my first video in english and you made me want to do an other video.


Great thank you very much yet.

So after disingaging the disc blocker you turn the last disk 90 degrees because of that last spacer, right?

Right. But I always do that, because the last disc is in correctly position for the right gate. If you watch my first video on Abus Granit Plus 37/80, you would see that I turn last disc of 90 degrees and in this padlock there is not the special last spacer. Because the first and the last discs are in correctly position for the right gate.

Attention.

Jaakko's pick can't pick Abus Granit X Plus, it can just pick Abus Granit Plus. Because on Abus Granit X Plus, discs and spacers are thinner and the first disc where I put tension is deeper. So, For pick Abus X Plus You need MARCO's pick or the same.

What about those locks with a butterfly disc in the front ? Where would you tension them?

For the padlock with a buttfly disc in the front. You have to have an other pick.

Generally we can put the tension on the last or the first disc.

There are two solutions :

1) The pick use the last disc for put the tension.
2) The pick use the first disc for put the tension. But the pick has to be butterfly-shaped.










Very important

There are three sorts of discs in Abus Plus :

-The normal disc

-The butterfy disc

-The butterfy disc n°7






See you soon.

[MARCO]

Hi,


When I began to pick the disc padlocks, I began by the chinese disc padlocks. I picked a lot.
I would advise you to begin to pick by chinese disc padlocks. It will be more easy for you in the first time, beaucause the chinese disc padlocks haven't false gates, just have right gates. But, something is very, very, very funny , when you will be able to pick the disc padlocks Abus, it will be lot easier for you to pick disc padlocks Abus than to pick chinese disc padlocks.

Why ?

Beaucause the chinese disc padlocks have a bad mecanic, and more you will pick a chinese disc padlock, more its mecanic will become bad.
The same disc lock with a bad mecanic, you can open in few seconds, or more ten minutes.
It's incroyable and very frustrating.

So, when you will be able to pick the disc padlocks Abus, you will want to pick just the Abus, beaucause you more will enjoy picking disc padlocks Abus than chinese disc padlocks.
But, it would be a mistake to do not more pick chinese disc padlocks.





Here my study on different brands chinese disc padlocks.




Here the first chinese disc padlock, that I picked and the tool (detainer) that I used for pick all my chinese disc padlocks





Here 4 chinese disc padlocks "FORLYING" with their own key






Here 8 chinese disc padlocks "TLAN"



Here their own key





Here 2 chinese disc padlocks "COGEX" with their own key





Here 15 chinese disc padlocks "SDLDEX"



Here their own key





Here 1 chinese disc padlock "ROBSON" with its key







Here on the left chinese padlok "ROBSON" and on the right chinese padlock "COGEX" with their key





Here above ROBISON's key and down COGEX's key









Conclusion :

Point of view picking difficulty , it's the same.








See you soon.