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Post Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:10 pm

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safety0ff wrote:More accurately, those would be called milled pins. There also exists pins with the groove closed off both at the top and bottom, they go by the name of micro milled pins.

ARX is way more complicated than just the security features on the pins It's a common misconception that the special features = ARX, but this is false. If you want all the details, check out the "MEDECO-Binder-1.pdf" document floating around the net.
Thanks safety0ff. All the articles I have read are calling the milled pins ARX pins, so I just recycled the term. I'll have to track down the that pdf and become more accurately informed.
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Post Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:30 pm

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Success! Page 14 has the pins. Looks as though they are just going to do away with their 10 series 'standard pins' and only use their milled and mico grove pins.

http://nynex.s5.com/TOOOL-US-Boston/PDF ... nder-1.pdf

Some pics of ARX pins (correct me if wrong), scroll to the bottom:
http://theamazingking.com/images/locks/arx/medeco.html

Also this post from Jon King's website talks about what medeco are plannign to do:
http://theamazingking.com/medecoder.html

Quote from the above link:
"The fix was adding ARX pins to each lock coming off the assembly line. ARX is an older Medeco system primarily intended for high-value targets and government applications. Their response was to make this system standard across their product line. One feature of ARX is that the grooves can be closed up; this makes the Medecoder ineffective on that pin stack."
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Post Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:14 pm

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kizza8484 wrote:Success! Page 14 has the pins. Looks as though they are just going to do away with their 10 series 'standard pins' and only use their milled and mico grove pins.

http://nynex.s5.com/TOOOL-US-Boston/PDF ... nder-1.pdf

Some pics of ARX pins (correct me if wrong), scroll to the bottom:
http://theamazingking.com/images/locks/arx/medeco.html

Also this post from Jon King's website talks about what medeco are plannign to do:
http://theamazingking.com/medecoder.html

Quote from the above link:
"The fix was adding ARX pins to each lock coming off the assembly line. ARX is an older Medeco system primarily intended for high-value targets and government applications. Their response was to make this system standard across their product line. One feature of ARX is that the grooves can be closed up; this makes the Medecoder ineffective on that pin stack."


Thanks for pimping the page :-)

Also, safetyOff is 100% correct about the fix really being "milled pins" rather than ARX. The terminology on my page is wrong; I'll fix it tomorrow (at work currently). I recently discovered this little discrepancy when I called up Medeco looking for the milled pin part numbers. It turns out that real ARX system pins are "DoD-restricted" which I found strange. The milled pins seem to be mixed into the standard line-up and available right now though. I'll let you folks know when I find those part numbers. I have always been fairly loose with my language when it came ARX (going so far as to call milled Original pins "ARX") but I suppose its time to straighten it up.
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Post Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:55 pm

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Another Medeco picked on cam! The first 1:30 is the picking. After that, its just very ugly disassembling. I have picked this thing many times but every time I turned on the camera I would get stage fright or something and the pins would refuse to set. So, as you can see from my fumbling hands, I was quite excited to finally catch it on film. I hope you guys enjoy anyway.


I'll try to post a pic that shows all the components. Thanks for watching.
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Post Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:01 pm

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Post Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:29 pm

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Awesome work once again man. Really getting the hang of them i see.

Keep it up.
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Post Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:41 pm

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Thanks Lew! I still have a long way to go. I had a few hours behind that lock before I felt good enough to even try it on camera and even then it took several attempts to get it right.
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Post Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:18 am

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Great work and photo jruther2 (HAHA)
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Post Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:26 pm

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Thanks crazy.
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Post Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:18 pm

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Master Safety Lockout with evil bitting.
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Post Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:30 am

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Great video and good resolution of the video camera, is very clear (HAHA)
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Post Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:47 am

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Wow nice videos!!!

and great pictures btw.
perfect quality and great picking i have to sub...^^ :mrgreen:
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Post Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:05 am

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superlenny wrote:Wow nice videos!!!

and great pictures btw.
perfect quality and great picking i have to sub...^^ :mrgreen:


crazy wrote:Great video and good resolution of the video camera, is very clear


Thanks for the kind words guys!
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Post Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:29 pm

Re: Jruther2's Lockpicking Vids

MSL's can be a real pain in the ass sometimes, most of them tend to have an erratic bitting and plus it dosen't help that the lock gives hardly no feedback.

Good job there
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Post Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:16 pm

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Master 930 with Master Safety Lockout core.
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