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Does anyone have Tryout Key codes for SmartKey locks

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femurat

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Post Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:09 am

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You're doing an amazing job. Keep it up!

Cheers :)
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:07 pm

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Great job. Hope it all works out. Looking forward to updates.....
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Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:04 am

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I like to imagine he's having too much fun playing with his new toy to update us about the led stuff.

In all seriousness, thanks for working on this and sharing, could save a bunch of us some cash. Definitely watching for how the led works out.
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:18 am

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Very nice work on the printed adapter and great job noticing the exact type of camera.

Apparently they make smartkey with SC1 keyway. Has anyone seen one yet ?

For the 243 tryout key set with the KW1 keyway the sloppy tolerances allow us to use a depth that is .013 away from the correct depths. The lock will open without damage. With the SC1 keyway the depths are .015 apart. I wonder if a 2 cut opens depth 1, 2, and 3. The SC1 allows a zero depth and a 9 depth. If you didn't want to include a zero depth ( or maybe a 9 depth ) then a 243 key set might work for these as well.

If you had to include all the depths then we are up to at least 1024 keys for a tryout set. So does anyone know how common a key is with a zero depth or a 9 depth ?
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:33 am

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Are they actually going to use 0-9 depth, or just the SC1 keyway with Kwikset depths?
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Post Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:00 pm

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Good question.

Perhaps they are using the same sloppy internals and just changed the profile.
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Post Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:16 am

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The other day I noticed a set (Aero set at CLK) which says it has 256 keys. Anyone see a reasonable way to arrive at that number? I'm not about to shell out $350 for something I don't need just to satisfy my mathematical curiosity...

3 ** 5 = 243 was the obvious number to me. I can't work out any scheme that wants 256 keys. Let's say that for some reason, you want to allow only the first cut to be a 0 (or last to be a 7), that's 81 extra keys. MACS cuts that down a bit but still the total I get is still 297.

2 ** 5 = 32 also makes sense and I thought maybe it's some combination of the 243 + 32, but that's 19 too many and I'm not seeing how there is a redundant 19 keys between the two sets.

So now I'm wondering if they just made a 243 key set and threw in an extra random 13 keys to throw people off the scent and prevent them from realizing how to cut their own?

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Post Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:06 am

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T-C wrote:So now I'm wondering if they just made a 243 key set and threw in an extra random 13 keys to throw people off the scent and prevent them from realizing how to cut their own?


That's interesting. Actually, it might be true LOL I know people that would do it.

Cheers :)
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Post Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:23 pm

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the leds I bought dont have coated wires so it is difficult to keep them separated for connection etc if i wrap them etc it blocks view too much, i can use on first few to view, but once internal the light shorts and cuts out, and if i place tape it gets in way, any other suggestions on the type of small led they might be using on this device, I purchase the plain mirrored key because I didnt feel the price was warranted on the other one with led , these parts are cheap and they have huge markup just for adding a 25 cent led to the mirrored key. otherwise everythign else works as it should fairly decent, the leds on the device are easily desoldered and there are two post present to solder the new led to etc just need to find a different one is all that will work better.
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Post Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:57 pm

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I went on Amazon and searched for “pre soldered micro led” one of the first choices was 25 pcs with insulated leads.. cost was $10..

I ordered a bunch and they should be here in a week or so..
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