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Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:19 pm
by hintss
So, I noticed something while looking at photos of locks,

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If you look, it looks like the cylinder moves that piece that sticks into the hole where the cylinder goes, which is somehow linked to the bolt, so it turns the bolt.

Underneath the cylinder-hole, there's that ]-shaped slot/channel, and it looks like its purpose is to keep you from moving the bolt directly without using the key/knob.

Now, the hole that the bolt comes out of seems to have enough space above the bolt that you could stick a tool in between the doors, through the gap above the bolt, and pull on the part sliding in the ]-shaped slot, allowing you to move the bolt directly.

Now, I don't have one of these locks to try this on, could someone confirm/deny whether this is possible?

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:29 pm
by HT4
Welcome. Is this what you are talking about?

http://youtu.be/SdNqfr6FHPo

If so, google "Adams rite bypass."

FYI- it's not as easy as it looks.

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:32 pm
by hintss
HT4 wrote:Welcome. Is this what you are talking about?

http://youtu.be/SdNqfr6FHPo

If so, google "Adams rite bypass."

FYI- it's not as easy as it looks.

No, I found that video while I was researching.

I'm asking about sticking a paperclip or somesuch in right above where the bolt comes out, and pulling the latch toward the top downwards.

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:16 pm
by jharveee
Yes,
I've seen the tool, but can't remember who make it.
Clark Security Expo is where I saw it.
6 inch Flat wiper blade with a I/8 X 1/8 notch at the end about a 1/2 inch down
connected to a 3/16 Dim. rod at a 90 degree angle.
with another piece of flat stock at the other end.
Looked like I__I
Slip Inside, next to the bolt and reach up and grab the dead locking pin.
pull down and toward edge of door.
Use shove it tool to help bolt retract.

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:29 pm
by jharveee
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Sorry about the crude drawing.
Didn't get a chance to hold the tool in my hand, but was quickly waved in front of me.

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:16 am
by jharveee
Q Tactical.com
Bypass tools.

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:38 pm
by Papa Gleb
Harvey, any chance you sweep up another of your awesome drawings to show where this tool is to be inserted and how it works? (drawings is very clear and I am not making a joke)

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:19 pm
by rerun12
i got my hands on a bunch of adams rite locks after some friends demo'ed an old shopping plaza. they were so easy to pick i don't think bypassing them is even worth the trouble. not o say bypassing isnt a cool skill, just that those locks are anything but difficult, even for a novice. but learning the bypass tricks on certain locks is certainly good to know, withe the coming zombie invasion and all.

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:58 am
by jharveee
Papa,
Check Qtactical.com
Featured pages
Lock bypass tools.
There is a photo(better than any drawing) of the tool in use.

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:48 pm
by Papa Gleb
Oh interesting tool but tools pretty easy to make. Thanks

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:23 am
by hintss
So I guess it's confirmed that this bypass exists and works, then?

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:09 pm
by jeffmoss26
if you check out some of the firefighter destructive entry videos, they will use pliers to spin the mortise cylinder out of the lock, and a small tool or screwdriver to flip the latch open.

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:34 am
by mastersmith
Rerun, they take a standard mortise cylinder. The level of pick resistance can be changed at your whim! You probably ran into the original pot metal cylinders that most come with. In 10 seconds tho, I could ruin your day had you planned on picking it "because it's just an AR deadlock".

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:06 pm
by dmasters
Not what the OP was looking for, BUT... Sparrows and Peterson both make a tool that goes through the keyway and emulates the cam-action of the tailpiece. You could make one yourself out of music wire.

Re: Mortise deadbolt bypass?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:47 pm
by camrahnbay
Camrahnbay here im in los angeles q tactical is a neat site do you have full access