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jeffmoss26

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Post Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:43 am

SARGENT

Everyone who knows me on here knows that Sargent is my FAVORITE lock. I have a TON of them...different styles/functions/keyways.
Here is an example of each kind!
Mortise cylinder (L) Rim Cylinder (R)
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2 different styles of Key in Knob...Sargent makes many styles of knobs and levers, they all use a slightly different cylinder
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6300 series removable core (one lobe larger than the other), 5100 series removable core (both lobes the same size), Sargent restricted keyway SFIC
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Older padlock which basically can not be rekeyed (without drilling out each pin cover), new style padlock with uses a KIK with housing
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Keso mortise
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Sargent Signature KIK
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There are several levels of high security:
Degree, which is similar to Medeco M3; Keso F1; Signature; XC; and Keso.
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GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
xeo: i root for the kernel
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Alaphablue

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Post Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:54 am

Re: SARGENT

Thanks man I have never picked a or owned a Sargent . I did not know there are that many different kinds are they difficult to pick that keso is purdy . I would love to do a trade some day how hard are those kesos to get ? I got some scorpions mortise.
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jeffmoss26

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Post Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:23 pm

Re: SARGENT

I am not the best at picking, but depending on how they are pinned, they can be fairly easy, or extremely tough to pick (just ask Cyrano). The tolerances seem to be pretty good throughout.
I got my Keso from eBay. Every so often I see Keso padlocks, with and without keys on there. Just gotta keep looking!
macgng: i just thought the cat was a real tiny bear
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
xeo: i root for the kernel
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Oldfast

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Post Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:33 pm

Re: SARGENT

Thanks for the 'show-n-tell' Jeff! "TONS"? I maybe see some trading in my future. lol

Do Sargents generally have sec-pins? If so... what types?
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jeffmoss26

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Post Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:01 pm

Re: SARGENT

I have never seen a security pin in a Sargent. The Signature and higher level locks have sidebars and the like, though.
macgng: i just thought the cat was a real tiny bear
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
xeo: i root for the kernel
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Post Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:30 pm

Re: SARGENT

I will update this post tonight with pictures of my Sargent pin and parts kits along with some rekeying tools!
macgng: i just thought the cat was a real tiny bear
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
xeo: i root for the kernel
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macgng

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Post Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:03 pm

Re: SARGENT

here's some sargent stuff i have:

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Post Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:33 am

Re: SARGENT

jeffmoss26 wrote:I am not the best at picking, but depending on how they are pinned, they can be fairly easy, or extremely tough to pick (just ask Cyrano). The tolerances seem to be pretty good throughout.
I got my Keso from eBay. Every so often I see Keso padlocks, with and without keys on there. Just gotta keep looking!


He is not lying. Some of them will make you hate life; others will pop open in a very satisfying way without too much trouble.
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:33 am

Re: SARGENT

Is that a new Sargent Keso on the right there Macgng? They still make them?
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:06 pm

Re: SARGENT

Here is more stuff. On the left is what remains of the Sargent pin kit I got from ebay last week. It got all kinds of messed up in shipping, the pins got mixed together and there was no way I was gonna sort through them. I kept all the retaining clips, springs, etc. On the right is a pin kit I put together with top, bottom, and master pins. Then we have 2 plug followers, a key gauge, a plug holder made from an old mortise cylinder, and a staking tool for the top pin strips.
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macgng: i just thought the cat was a real tiny bear
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
xeo: i root for the kernel
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:11 pm

Re: SARGENT

NNFAK wrote:Is that a new Sargent Keso on the right there Macgng? They still make them?



That is a brand new in box Sargent KESO. All the padlocks are keyed alike and I have several keys. I was going to get more keys made but it's expensive and no one can guarantee they will work, so I gave up on that project and decide to sell the extras.

The ilco blank is KE4 if anyone was wondering.
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:25 pm

Re: SARGENT

Nice collection guys :mrgreen:

Thanks for the blank reference macgng, now I know what to look for :razz:

Cheers :)
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:21 pm

Re: SARGENT

Hey jeff
Is this relevant to your interest?
Do you know anything about these padlocks?
Just asking because i know you are a sargent guy :razz:

Some writing on the bottom of It says: patd june 1810 and 1912


Nice collection btw
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jeffmoss26

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Post Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:22 pm

Re: SARGENT

I would need to see pictures. I am guessing by the age it's a lever padlock, which I know nothing about :/
macgng: i just thought the cat was a real tiny bear
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
xeo: i root for the kernel
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:26 pm

Re: SARGENT

Hey jeff
Is this relevant to your interest?
Do you know anything about these padlocks?
Just asking because i know you are a sargent guy :razz:

Some writing on the bottom of It says: patd june 1810 and 1912


Nice collection btw
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