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new (old keys)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:52 pm
by jeffmoss26
Got a box full of old keys today and just finished sorting through them. Lots of old car keys, flat steel and warded keys, etc.
Here are some highlights!
Ring of Yale small pin keys, most are marked "Made for Overhead Door Co"
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Barrows and Lockwood
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Curtis blank, made right here in Cleveland
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Yale small pin keys
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Yale VC key, 6 pin
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Very cool markings on these old Yales
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Reading
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Schlage round head, some kind of reverse keyway
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Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:27 pm
by jeffmoss26
Some info I got regarding the Schlage round head key, courtesy of Pete Schifferli on antique-locks forum:

"The early Schlage round bow blanks were 921B for 5-pin and 922B for 6-pin. There was also a 920A for single-bitted wafer tumbler locks used on ancient F-Series locks. All those cited were made of nickel silver. See thumbnail image taken from 1936 Schlage catalog.

Pete Schifferli"

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Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:52 pm
by GWiens2001
Dang that is cool, Jeff!

Gordon

Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:49 pm
by mastersmith
That 920A or "A" (and a "W" ) are still in use today. They were slapping them on apartments and houses in the 60's and maybe into the 70's. There are a bunch of them in use in my neck o the woods.

Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:53 pm
by coldrake
jeffmoss26 wrote: There was also a 920A for single-bitted wafer tumbler locks used on ancient F-Series locks.



"Ancient." I know people who have this style lock on their front door as a KIK. Fortunately they also have a Kwikset installed, so they're safe and secure.

/sarcasm

Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:47 pm
by GWiens2001
To Jeff, anything prior to 1980 is ancient. :P

Gordon

Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:34 am
by jeffmoss26
Hey now, I am not the one who wrote that! You can see it's in quotes, so yell at Pete on Antique-locks forum :P

PS, Gordon, anything before 1987 is ancient to me.

Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:41 am
by femurat
Cool keys Jeff! Do you still have the key in this picture? I'd like to get some measurements, like the holes diameter and the bow height and width. And since you're at it, the total key length.
I'm planning to make a key for a still bank lock and was thinking to replicate this key bow.

Thanks :)

Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:17 am
by jeffmoss26
I believe I still have it. I will check over the weekend :D

Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:49 am
by femurat
Great, thanks :)

EDIT: I've added a png showing what I have in mind: a simple profile to be cut on a 1 mm (1/32 inch approximately) thick stock. The bittings can be cut later.

079DE53E-4837-45C8-9131-C767F3239E5F_zpspk9uairs.png

Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:37 pm
by jeffmoss26
I have the key.
Hole diameter is .250"
Bow width is .905"
Total key length is just under 2"

Let me know if you need any more info!

Re: new (old keys)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:46 am
by femurat
Thanks Jeff, that's all I needed. I'll let you know if I actually make the keys.

Thanks again :)