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jeffmoss26

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Post Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:52 pm

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Got a box full of old keys today and just finished sorting through them. Lots of old car keys, flat steel and warded keys, etc.
Here are some highlights!
Ring of Yale small pin keys, most are marked "Made for Overhead Door Co"
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Barrows and Lockwood
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Curtis blank, made right here in Cleveland
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Yale small pin keys
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Yale VC key, 6 pin
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Very cool markings on these old Yales
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Reading
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Schlage round head, some kind of reverse keyway
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Post Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:27 pm

Re: new (old keys)

Some info I got regarding the Schlage round head key, courtesy of Pete Schifferli on antique-locks forum:

"The early Schlage round bow blanks were 921B for 5-pin and 922B for 6-pin. There was also a 920A for single-bitted wafer tumbler locks used on ancient F-Series locks. All those cited were made of nickel silver. See thumbnail image taken from 1936 Schlage catalog.

Pete Schifferli"

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Post Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:52 am

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Dang that is cool, Jeff!

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Post Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:49 am

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That 920A or "A" (and a "W" ) are still in use today. They were slapping them on apartments and houses in the 60's and maybe into the 70's. There are a bunch of them in use in my neck o the woods.
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Post Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:53 am

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jeffmoss26 wrote: There was also a 920A for single-bitted wafer tumbler locks used on ancient F-Series locks.



"Ancient." I know people who have this style lock on their front door as a KIK. Fortunately they also have a Kwikset installed, so they're safe and secure.

/sarcasm
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Post Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:47 am

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To Jeff, anything prior to 1980 is ancient. :P

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Post Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:34 am

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Hey now, I am not the one who wrote that! You can see it's in quotes, so yell at Pete on Antique-locks forum :P

PS, Gordon, anything before 1987 is ancient to me.
macgng: i just thought the cat was a real tiny bear
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
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Post Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:41 am

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Cool keys Jeff! Do you still have the key in this picture? I'd like to get some measurements, like the holes diameter and the bow height and width. And since you're at it, the total key length.
I'm planning to make a key for a still bank lock and was thinking to replicate this key bow.

Thanks :)
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Post Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:17 pm

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I believe I still have it. I will check over the weekend :D
macgng: i just thought the cat was a real tiny bear
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
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Post Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:49 pm

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Great, thanks :)

EDIT: I've added a png showing what I have in mind: a simple profile to be cut on a 1 mm (1/32 inch approximately) thick stock. The bittings can be cut later.

079DE53E-4837-45C8-9131-C767F3239E5F_zpspk9uairs.png
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:37 am

Re: new (old keys)

I have the key.
Hole diameter is .250"
Bow width is .905"
Total key length is just under 2"

Let me know if you need any more info!
macgng: i just thought the cat was a real tiny bear
GWiens2001: Great video! Learned a lot about what fun can be had with a forklift and a chainsaw.
pmaxey83: but i first have to submit the proper forms for a new hobby to my wife
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:46 am

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Thanks Jeff, that's all I needed. I'll let you know if I actually make the keys.

Thanks again :)

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