COOL KEYS
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First key is for a magnetic lock, 3rd is most likely a safety deposit or similar (or very fancy old hotel), I've seen that style of that middle key on auto anti-theft (the 4 way key) but that one seems too complex for something that mundane.
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The Bricard appears to be a french sister company of Ingersoll-Rand
http://bricard.ingersollrand.com/fr/les ... fault.aspx
http://bricard.ingersollrand.com/fr/les ... fault.aspx
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third key "winfield" is definately a hotel key. I have one of that type of cylinder in my collection marked "sears MKS" same key.
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The second key is for a Bricard SuperSurete and the third is for the Winfield lock, a dual key wafer cylinder. Some info/pictures:
http://lockwiki.com/index.php/File:Winf ... linder.jpg
http://lockwiki.com/index.php/File:Winfield_key.jpg
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=E44wAAAAEBAJ
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http://lockwiki.com/index.php/File:Winf ... linder.jpg
http://lockwiki.com/index.php/File:Winfield_key.jpg
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=E44wAAAAEBAJ
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1724 looks like an old locker key like you would find in a train station or airport before 9/11.
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WOW,that was fast .....brilliant work thanks guys.
winfield lock was for hotel use,seen the patent 1978.
one key for the guest,and one for the maid.
Looks like the french had trouble opening the bricard,on france lockpicking org.
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SOME INFO,ON THE WINFIELD, ONLY TWO DEPTH CUTS.
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Cool keys/locks! Thanks for sharin' em. I wouldn't have had a clue. People round here really know their stuff.
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greyman at lp101 this is the blade key,but we dont have the lock pic yet.
rolsecure key .
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Check out the key,thats used on the 3g222 lock mk2+mk3. no mark 1,interesting.
where did the rolsecure lock go emm ?
where did the rolsecure lock go emm ?
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REVISITED: edsmiley as some of the winfield locks for sale at a great price with no keys...but with only 2 cutting depths click on cutting chart i see no problems if you can find the blanks. never did find that rolsecure lock!
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From what I read in the patent information, it looks that there are three cuts, but I did not know what the depths are. Think I see two mid depth cuts on your key in the first picture as well. I could well be wrong.
If you look at the entry for this lock in Pulford's book and look at the keys, I think they show three cuts as well. Maybe that particular key code only uses the two cuts. Also, the keys are cut on both sides, with the opposite side not being a mirror image, but a reverse image. Deep cut on top = shallow cut on bottom, mid depth cut on top = mid depth cut on bottom, shallow cut on top = deep cut on bottom.
Gordon
If you look at the entry for this lock in Pulford's book and look at the keys, I think they show three cuts as well. Maybe that particular key code only uses the two cuts. Also, the keys are cut on both sides, with the opposite side not being a mirror image, but a reverse image. Deep cut on top = shallow cut on bottom, mid depth cut on top = mid depth cut on bottom, shallow cut on top = deep cut on bottom.
Gordon
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I will dig the key out and take some measurements gordon L@@king at the key again i can see your point ! on the cuts
i can confirm the key is double sided with different cuts that do not mirror one another...shoulder side is reversed on plain side of keys blade.
i can confirm the key is double sided with different cuts that do not mirror one another...shoulder side is reversed on plain side of keys blade.
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