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Strange Key Please Identify

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Ron774

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Post Fri May 06, 2016 12:25 pm

Strange Key Please Identify

Out of curiosity, please identify this key

http://s32.postimg.org/ketmyysjp/image.jpg
http://s32.postimg.org/3m9ejs0zp/image.jpg

The pin tumblers are 3+ inches deep from the face hence the long round keyshaft.
The only other key Ive seen like this belonged to a garage door here but this link is for a cross lock.

http://www.digitalwebstudios.co.uk/tony ... -60_57.jpg

Anyone know, thanks.
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Werewolf

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Post Fri May 06, 2016 12:36 pm

Re: Strange Key Please Identify

These look like the keys for a Burg Wachter BB insert lock.
Here's a link to their site
These are small locks that are put inside the keyhole of a bit key lock. They prevent people who have the key from entering.
Obviously limited extra security.
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bitbuster

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Post Fri May 06, 2016 2:00 pm

Re: Strange Key Please Identify

Crucifix key. Sentry 'V' series safes use that keyway. Ideal padlocks use them, too.
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xeo

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Post Fri May 06, 2016 2:54 pm

Re: Strange Key Please Identify

So did you snap these pictures as the janitor was walking by or were you just not able to get that great of a picture using a smart phone and binoculars from across the street?
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The code is hidden in the tumblers. One position opens the lock, another position opens one of these doors...
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Ron774

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Post Fri May 06, 2016 4:42 pm

Re: Strange Key Please Identify

xeo wrote:So did you snap these pictures as the janitor was walking by or were you just not able to get that great of a picture using a smart phone and binoculars from across the street?


No, they were clipped images from a video but if the image was crystal clear, where would the fun be in identification?

Werewolf wrote:These look like the keys for a Burg Wachter BB insert lock.
Here's a link to their site
These are small locks that are put inside the keyhole of a bit key lock. They prevent people who have the key from entering.
Obviously limited extra security.


Well done, Sir!
I applaud your intelligence and will follow your wisdom to come!

Here is a short video about it to anyone else for further clarification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJI27P_ ... e=youtu.be
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Everetteb777

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Post Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:16 pm

Re: Strange Key Please Identify

My turn to challenge everyone, and no, these are not taken from a video or the like. I found these two types inside an old cash register that was for sale. Seems at some point the register was turned on its side and they exited the tray and got stuck in the housing of the cash drawer bottom half of the register. Neither key types belong to the register, so I bought them because they were so unique. I searched for quite a while without any luck, my thoughts were laundry machine keys, but.... Thanks for any ideas. Ev

Dimple keys(?) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MYF_TdVl_vZmE5ue4EPn4y5peLrSA7bs/view?usp=sharing

Barrel Keys https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_wJqThqqC05qUlTxsKBJNRJqLHQmZ5i0/view?usp=sharing
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Squelchtone

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Post Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:49 pm

Re: Strange Key Please Identify

Everetteb777 wrote:My turn to challenge everyone, and no, these are not taken from a video or the like. I found these two types inside an old cash register that was for sale. Seems at some point the register was turned on its side and they exited the tray and got stuck in the housing of the cash drawer bottom half of the register. Neither key types belong to the register, so I bought them because they were so unique. I searched for quite a while without any luck, my thoughts were laundry machine keys, but.... Thanks for any ideas. Ev

Dimple keys(?) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MYF_TdVl_vZmE5ue4EPn4y5peLrSA7bs/view?usp=sharing

Barrel Keys https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_wJqThqqC05qUlTxsKBJNRJqLHQmZ5i0/view?usp=sharing


You got some nice Chineseum there...

here is a video of the flat plate key style lock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGs1enmPLI

The other one's key bow looks like ABA brand but isn't one of their offerings... def feels like a "top security" alibaba.com cam lock key or padlock key.

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Everetteb777

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Post Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:59 pm

Re: Strange Key Please Identify

That was a cool lock in the video. Thanks for making headway!

These keys do not punch thoroughly through like the videos, mine are more dimpled, some are dimpled from both sides too, and based on the offsets, it looks like there could be 6 rows of 5, 1 top row of 4, and now doubled since they can be from either side (see new pic.) There seems to be be coding - A thru E shown on the obverse (no B & C here,) and a numbering scheme on the reverse (E shown reverse side)
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Thanks again,

Ev
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