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Game Time + My Recent Discovery - KEYS

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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:38 pm

Game Time + My Recent Discovery - KEYS

Lets start with the game: Below you will find a picture of a key blank and an emptied out core. Question is which is older? The blank or the core?

Ill post the answer and the discovery made after we get a few answers in.
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:40 pm

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Cylinder is older.
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:58 pm

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:agree: Core is older
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:59 pm

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My vote is for the key and that you discovered a newer manufacturer used another manufacturer's keyway.
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:05 pm

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What came first; the key or the core?
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:16 pm

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Great to see commons to fast. Keep them coming gents as the answer may be very surprising to you all!
Dave you lost me with old and new manufacturers
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:55 pm

Re: Game Time + My Recent Discovery - KEYS

Papa Gleb wrote:........!
Dave you lost me with old and new manufacturers


I was trying to say the possibly newer cores's manufacturer used another's older key design. Judging by your confusion I imagine I'm wrong. :cry:
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:05 pm

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The key and core do go together but are made by different companies
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:00 pm

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I don't know enough about this company to be intimately acquainted with their products, but since I know this is an old style bow on the blank, I say the key is older.
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:11 pm

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Key is older but being used in an american core that's newer...my guess
(junkunc keys go to american locks)
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:51 pm

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No clue. For all I know, the oldest thing in the pic is the paper towel.
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:39 pm

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I'm going with the key
macgng; it's completely unnecessary to have ~15$ in keys for a 50¢ lock ... but we all do it anyway :P
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:16 pm

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Hahaha HT.

Either you guys are looking to deep or I didnt explain it well enough but I think its time to reveal the truth. The core is from an American padlock no more than 10 years old. The key is a Star blank for the AM keyway which was made approximately 30 years ago or older.

By now you are probably asking how did the entire bible get such a rich patina if only the plug is in contact with the elements... so Ill tell you.... the secret is.... Brakleen. Yes you read right. When I got this core it looked nice and goldish like a lightly used brass core except it was glued to I soaked it in brakleen and forgot about it until yesterday. Went to check on it and was surpirsed to see that the chemicals in Brakleen actually acted as a catilist and oxidized the brass core. It looks like the core was outside in the elements for 50 years except this core only spent 3-4 weeks in Brakleen. I key on the other hand came from a retired locksmith who had these blanks handing for 30 some years.

The conclusion and why I said discovery is as follows, lets say you have an old lock an antique with nice rich patina but no key so you go grab a blank and make a key except the blank is new shiny and does not match the lock in any way.. so dump it in a jag of Brakleen and once a week check on it. Pull out when it reaches your desired color and boom you now have a nice old patina rich lock with a matching key. I know use impression freaks have always had this question and I even remember Gordon making a thread on this topic so now you have it gents. Brakleen: cleans your car brakes, degreases, stinks like hell evaporizing your nose hairs and also turns brass rich with patina.

Side note: this core was handled for a good 20m before the picture was taken so it will not just rub off. I struggled to shim and pick this core all at the same time and nothing happened to the color.

PS. Excuse any mistakes, typed this super fast as I have to ru..........
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Post Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:29 pm

Re: Game Time + My Recent Discovery - KEYS

Just like I said :pimpmofo:
xeo: i use an electric buzzer exclusively for my ass that gets sanitized afterwards
PhoneMan: would have freaked my friend out if hed come over
MBI: Most anything goes.
PhoneMan: way to give me nightmares
selim: ok then blow your load,, i'll take anything free now a day's

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