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Post Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:13 am

Is this a threat to Mul-t-Lok

Seems that it may be possible to copy dimple keys on to a wooden stick.

I currently do not have a Mul-t-lok that I can test this on.

Could someone please try it and let us know if it works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrgQO6h_hlk&feature=related
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Post Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:01 am

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Ill give this a go.
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Post Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:04 am

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i dont see why it wouldnt work for normal dimple locks.. ur cutting the bitting in wood versus metal, its not suprising it opens the lock...

multlock however is more complicated, i doubt someone could cut pin in pin dimple cuts like that...
it would work on a mult garrison tho i guess
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Post Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:29 am

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Woah! That's pretty cool!!!
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Post Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:54 am

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It would prolly work on a KESO .......... :mrgreen:
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Post Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:52 pm

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Somebody in the seventy's said they could "soak" a stick in water and then "work" it in the lock to let the pins make impressions in the wood until the combination was transfered to the stick, thus making an operating key. I never saw any proof that it worked though. I believe Sargent sued them.
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Post Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:36 pm

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i tried on dimple locks, never a sargent keso tho... herrm maybe ill try a keso...
its just a self impressioning technique and maybe it ddnt work on the locks i had cause hte bitting took too many positions... keso only has a few positions...
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Post Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:47 pm

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i have a 5 keso i can try it on but 0 popsicle sticks :(
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Post Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:57 pm

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macgng wrote:i have a 5 keso i can try it on but 0 popsicle sticks :(


I got a box of pop sticks and no keso..lol
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Post Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:20 am

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I cant wait to try this - i got the garrison & the lollipop :D
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Post Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:29 am

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Hi Guys.

I have a Sargent Keso and some icecream stick :)

Today I give it a try.

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Post Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:43 pm

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No it doesnot work, it leaves no impression and flex,s too much.
tested on mul-t classic , garrison, today.
Tested awhile ago,SAME RESULT.
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Post Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:56 am

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I guess you have to use a tension wrench to rotate the plug. An ice cream stick is too soft to turn the plug.

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Post Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:16 pm

Re: Is this a threat to Mul-t-Lok

Hmmm, I dunno about this. Transferring the holes to the right places on the stick is doable but cutting them to the right depths? I realise the wider the hole, the deeper the hole but the depth is the critical bit and this is achieved by hacking at it with a pair of scissors???? Then there's the cuts on the side of the key which he didn't even show you getting traced/transferred. Then it works straight off first time too? I call bullshit on this one.
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Post Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:16 pm

Re: Is this a threat to Mul-t-Lok

popsicle sticks are too wide

there are some coffee stirrers that can be had at various coffee shops, they come in a variety, and recently I got one that was from bamboo and had smooth planed surfaces, and a crosssection that was like this ()
when you consider that the method is only for dimple locks, which commonly have two rows of cuts this stick could be put in there and wiggled clockwise rotation then counter clockwise rotation,
as it does this it is binding the cylinder and the wood is able to turn a little bit in a keyway with a cross section like this
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this should at least leave marks for the positions of the pins and may leave a deeper dent to indicate a hard binding pin,
bamboo is relatively hard, but you could then use a drill bit by hand to cut a bit into the marks, and rework it like impressioning, or you could drill the holes needed a bit deeper and wrap the stick in aluminum foil and make the impressions on the foil wrap just as is done with prepared keyblanks, there is/was video on youtube for this bypass
the only thing different in this post is the mention of the bamboo coffee stirrers. look in upscale coffeeshops.
if the method doesnt work with the holes and foil, try putting a small bit of some malleable substance in the holes under the foil, bubblegum or fimo or some kind of sillyputty.
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