Is the Framon Depth and space book available as a pdf?

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MrPharmer2012 wrote:I am trying to locate a digital copy of the framon book if any one knows where I can get a digital copy so i can just have saved to my ipad instead of carrying the book around or having an ongoing subscription to instacoge or genericode when i only use a few codes. PM me if anyone knows of one.
mdc5150 wrote:I think all the disciples of the Framon cult are all old enough they still don't like to use computers.
tpark wrote:mdc5150 wrote:I think all the disciples of the Framon cult are all old enough they still don't like to use computers.
Hey! I like the blue book! Also, get off of my lawn!
If I didn't have the blocks, I might be inclined to just buy them from a distributor. They sent me some kind of code for Genericode or something, but I didn't get any floppy disks so I guess I'm stuck with the book.
ghost_os wrote:This might have some of what you're looking for:
https://www.framon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/framon-2.pdf
look at page four.
Here's where I found it, they have other PDFs on this page, so maybe check out some of the other manuals that might be relevant:
https://www.framon.com/index.php/manuals/
Finally, their page on the Framon 2 machines might be useful:
https://www.framon.com/index.php/project/framon-12/
I have seen the code book on eBay from time to time, usually around $50.
Beyond this, I would say contact Framon, tell them that you have purchased a machine second hand, and see what information / prices they quote you for missing parts.
Good luck!
MrPharmer2012 wrote:Page four shows all spacing but doesnt tell me what blocks have what it just list every option
tpark wrote:Mrpharmer2012: If you tell me what spacing you're looking for, I can examine the blocks I have and tell you which one has your spacing. I only use the block as a guide to get me to the right general spacing, so if you're a bit handy you can make your own block and mark the spacings you need with a sharpie. Since the carriage moves 50 thou each rotation, the sharpie marks will be close enough for you to dial the spacing in.
With the Framon machine you're setting the actual cut depth rather than trying to get the needle lined up on a card. Of course, when setting up systems, it's easier to work with integers as depth values, but being able to cut any depth is handy. The upside is that you don't really need the blue book - if you have the HPC D&S table, it contains all the information you need for common jobs, and information for many less common locks. The generic cutter profile will work for many jobs - I bought specific Schlage, Sargent, Cisa and SFIC cutters, but you can probably get away without that - I guess theoretically you'd have potential problems at MACS with the wrong cutter but I think the generic cutter works in most cases.
That link to the operations PDF posted earlier contains the relevant operating information for the machine that isn't D&S data, so with that you have all the data you need to cut keys.
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