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macgng

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Post Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:59 pm

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Looks like i only got one of them:
B36281 ---- Combination is: 4 14 4 ---- Turn right 3 times to first number, left twice to second, right once to third.

Doesn't look like there is anything for L2 44:
Acura 2007+
Acura TSX 2005+ CSX 2006+
American Motors Jeep Dodge secondary 1970-91
Aurora/Riviera ign. 1995-99 Century/Regal ign. 1997-2005
Aurora/Riviera secondary 1995-99 Buick Century/Regal secondary 1997-2005
Cadillac Escalade 1999
Cam locks (Lockwood 5 wafer)
Chevy Venture Olds Silhouette Pontiac Transport 1999
Chicago tubular
Chrysler and Jeep 1994-97
Corvette 1997-99
Fort 6 wafer
General Motors J- and N-cars 1995-99 except Malibu/Cutlass 1997
General Motors J-cars 1995 and N-cars 1994-95
General Motors vans/pickups/trucks 1996-98 and Chevy/GMC vans 1995
General Motors vans/pickups/trucks 1999
Honda 2006+
Honda Accord 2003-05 Odyssey 2005 Ridgeline 2005
Honda motorcycle
Honda other 2002-05
Hyundai Azera 2006+
Hyundai Santa Fe 2007+
Illinois double-sided
International Navistar secondary 1970-91
Isuzu Hombre 1997-98
Isuzu Hombre 1999
Kia Amanti 2004-10
Master trigger lock
Olds Cutlass and Chevy Malibu 1997-99 Olds Alero 1999
Olds Intrigue 1998-99
Pontiac Grand Prix 1997-99
USPS Grumman and Utilimaster Postal Jeeps 1994+
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Mailbox series for 203 & 257, i dont see eagle in the list, National cam lock does come up as 4 pin or 5 pin, but here are the mailbox series:
Anderson-Hickey (Bommer 5-pin)
Dura Steel + Jensen + Permabilt mailboxes (XL K series)
Dura Steel + Jensen + Permabilt mailboxes (XL X series)
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well i got the master combo for ya :)
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Post Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:42 am

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Great stuff Mac got her to pop! stiff ass dial though big dent at 33 but it worked.
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Post Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:44 am

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Doogs wrote:Great stuff Mac got her to pop! stiff ass dial though big dent at 33 but it worked.



YAY! :D glad it worked! :P
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Post Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:00 pm

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we appreciate you macgng - keep up the good work buddy - even though it may be frustrating at times - the codesmith lol
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Post Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:06 pm

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Bump for anyone that didn't see this.... just renewed my subscription.

if anyone has blind codes i can look em up for ya... thanks, and if they work, donate to the forum :D
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Post Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:22 pm

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Ringo , do you still need those Ronis CC codes ?
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Werewolf wrote:Ringo , do you still need those Ronis CC codes ?


PM inbound - buddy get asked regular for them - was going to see if SKS could help out - as they do code sheets now for the complete series - never got round to it as I would need the cut card also - although I could make one
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Post Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:57 pm

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A few keys in the 92-201 -> 92-210 range would be good as I'm trying to crack the bitting sequence of these filing cabinet keys at the moment.

Many thanks for what is a big ask.

regards

Brian :)

PS Could we start up a bitting database or are there rules against that?
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Post Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:14 pm

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BrianJClark wrote:A few keys in the 92-201 -> 92-210 range would be good as I'm trying to crack the bitting sequence of these filing cabinet keys at the moment.

Many thanks for what is a big ask.

regards

Brian :)

PS Could we start up a bitting database or are there rules against that?



Most blind code don't have a hyphen. What is the brand of this lock and how many pins?
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Post Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:26 am

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Thanks buddy - just need the space and depth info wolf
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:18 am

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Hi,
I am looking for information on the Master blind code system for the A series. The code book that I have for Master shows A114 having 3 bittings - 4445, 4446, and 5556. The question is, which one is it? I would think that a proper blind code system would have a 1:1 mapping between bitting and code, but if you had certain blind codes, which bitting would you use? I found that certain bittings have multiple blind codes, but that's not so terrible. Is there some sort of algorithm that maps bittings to a blind code in many cases?
For code A116, the codes are 4130,5241,5251,5341,5352,6251 - that's potentially a lot of wasted blanks if you had to guess. The worst part would be if you were ordering locks - you would have to provide the direct code if you wanted to be sure to get the right locks. Which bitting do you think is correct for A114 and A116?

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Post Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:33 am

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A114 --- 4445
A116 --- 5241

thats what i get
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:13 am

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macgng wrote:A114 --- 4445
A116 --- 5241

thats what i get


Thanks very much! that's really quite interesting - perhaps they decide on an "official" code to use after a period of time.
Here's what I get for these bittings:

Direct Code: 4445
Known pairs: 4445 114 (has 3 entries index is 0)
Known pairs: 4445 138 (has 1 entries index is 0)
Total entries: 2

Direct Code: 5241
Known pairs: 5241 116 (has 6 entries index is 1)
Known pairs: 5241 1091 (has 2 entries index is 1)
Known pairs: 5241 1099 (has 1 entries index is 0)
Known pairs: 5241 5759 (has 2 entries index is 1)
Total entries: 4

So for 5241, it's not the first entry for 116.

I haven't found a clear pattern, but I'm going to keep looking.
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:34 am

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tpark wrote:Hi,
For code A116, the codes are 4130,5241,5251,5341,5352,6251 - that's potentially a lot of wasted blanks if you had to guess.
Thanks!


Not necessarily

If you cut them in this order , you can reuse the same blank multiple times. You only need 2 blanks for theses 6 bitting.
blank 1
4130
5341
5352
blank 2
5241
5251
6251

My software showes the same codes as macgng.

The probable reason for the multiple codes in your book is that the companies that make these books put the list together from information they get from locksmiths. If they get several bitting for the same lock , they can't know what the right one is. if you look at the 6 bittings you have for code A114 , they are very close together. One of contributing locksmiths mistook a 4's for 5's and 5 for 6. And another mistook a 5 for a 6. Same for the A116.
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:46 pm

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Werewolf wrote:
Not necessarily

If you cut them in this order , you can reuse the same blank multiple times. You only need 2 blanks for theses 6 bitting.
blank 1
4130
5341
5352
blank 2
5241
5251
6251

My software showes the same codes as macgng.

The probable reason for the multiple codes in your book is that the companies that make these books put the list together from information they get from locksmiths. If they get several bitting for the same lock , they can't know what the right one is. if you look at the 6 bittings you have for code A114 , they are very close together. One of contributing locksmiths mistook a 4's for 5's and 5 for 6. And another mistook a 5 for a 6. Same for the A116.


That makes sense now. At one time, Master locks had the blind code printed on the bottom of the lock, so some of the codes may have come from someone impressioning the lock and then reporting what they got. Thanks for the insight, and your blank saving hint.
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