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shipping picks to the UK

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:36 am
by ratyoke
I am going to be shipping some picks to the UK soon, actually quite a few, and I was wondering about the customs form. They want the contents of the package listed, so I was going to write "tools". I am just wondering what I should write if the person at the post office wants me to be more specific? Obviously people are shipping picks all over the place, but I thought I read somewhere you had to be a locksmith to legally mail picks?

Re: shipping picks to the UK

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:21 am
by Snor
Just write "Hand tools". I have had packages saying that and they got here fine.

Re: shipping picks to the UK

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:05 pm
by ToolyMcgee
As far as I can figure the UK is much like the US or Canada in respect to carrying lockpicks, but as far as mailing them I can't find any laws that say you have to be a locksmith or that you have to verify you are shipping to a locksmith in the UK. Different cities, provinces, countries the laws may change, but in general I can't find a law that says so. Someone in who lives in the UK might have a better idea. As for what to identify the package as to customs... tools, handtools, hobbiests tool set, is discriptive enough. It isn't deceptive, like doll golf clubs or swizzel sticks, but it isn't specific either. Even though it may not be illegal to ship picks wherever you are shipping them I can pretty much guarantee "lock picks" is going to gain the attention of whoever handles the package. If you absolutely need to identify the specific contents go with hobbiests lock tools. Try to steer away from locksmithing tools if you aren't shipping to a locksmith. The negative stigma associated with the tools is not going to help your package get to it's destination any faster, and so I would dance around using those words exactly. Just sweat profusely and say, "well it isn't a bomb... if that's what you think" and you should be fine with just labeling them "burglary tools". :mrgreen:

If you do ship them to a country where it is illegal to own them, Poland for example, then "tools" is not going to get you off the hook if they find the contents to be illegal. Technically a knife is a tool, but it would still be illegal to mail a bowie knife to New York under that content heading. Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law, blah, blah, blah. Do your best to find out the laws of the exact places you are mailing to beforehand, so you are comfortable in the fact you aren't doing anything maliciously illegal. I don't think you have anything to worry about, but I'm not a practicing lawyer in the UK. All these laws are so much grey area it's difficult for the hobbiest to sort it all out... if you feel apprehensive about mailing, just don't until you find out for sure. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

-Tooly

Re: shipping picks to the UK

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:46 pm
by nozza36
Hobbyist carving tools ought to do it , i'm just jealous 'cos i'm broke at the moment .
I do intend to look you up in a few weeks and plead with you to sell me
a few picks , they're the best thing since sliced bread ! (HAHA)

Re: shipping picks to the UK

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:06 pm
by frantic57744
i,ve sent a few out myself i tend to list then as i.e (10 spring stainless profiles) it,s just gives them a really boring engineering feel "lockpicks" generate to much interest.. Also there,s a little declaration label just tick the *gift box then that,s pretty much it >stainless steel sprofiles<

you picks are truly awesome B T W :P

Re: shipping picks to the UK

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:41 am
by ratyoke
I listed them as hand tools. We'll see if they get there ok.

Re: shipping picks to the UK

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:50 am
by ToolyMcgee
I'd say no worries. Just give it a week or so. Now shipping from the UK to the US is another story.

What's with the wierd dog scribble avatar? You're freaking me out...

-Mcgee

Re: shipping picks to the UK

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:53 am
by uklockpicker
shouldnt be a problem to tell you the truth , i must have posted over 200 parcels to the US and others around the world including canada,
as said - just write HAND TOOL - and tick the gift box ( cheaper this way )
8-)

Re: shipping picks to the UK

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:03 am
by ratyoke
ToolyMcgee wrote:I'd say no worries. Just give it a week or so. Now shipping from the UK to the US is another story.

What's with the wierd dog scribble avatar? You're freaking me out...

-Mcgee


its a bunny rabbit