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Disappearing collector/reference web sites

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:24 pm
by GregWhitney
Hey all,
I was just wondering if anyone knows what happened to the website vintagecombinationlocks.com. It was a great reference specifically for combination locks which is one of my interests. The small reference sites seem to disappear with increasing frequency and I always wonder if there was anything I could have done to help keep them around or even bring them back.

It would be really nice to save these collections of information for future generations - anyone have an idea how?

Greg

Re: Disappearing collector/reference web sites

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:26 pm
by Riyame
Likely there is less and less interest in the websites and the hosting costs keep increasing so they just eventually die off. You can try using a website such as https://archive.org/web/ to view the content that was on them and save it for yourself.

Re: Disappearing collector/reference web sites

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:33 pm
by GregWhitney
Thanks Riyame! I was not aware of archive.org/web and now am happy (afraid?) I have plans for my weekend! Pretty cool.

Re: Disappearing collector/reference web sites

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:17 am
by pickmonger2
John King has an amazing website with a section on lockpicking. He invented a tool to open several versions of medico locks and had a lot of other good information. http://theamazingking.com/tools.php

Audiogeek sold high end audio equipment but had an excellent collection of photos on stuff of interest to lockpickers.

Matt Blaze has a large collection of photos of interest as well. His site is still up but who knows for how long. A little google fu should find it for you.

A long time a go there was a post here with links to some the sites that had been archived but no longer alive.

At the risk of being censured (and censored) for bringing up old posts you may wish to check out https://www.keypicking.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6693#p56490

Some of the posts had some copyrighted material and/or linked to postings on other well known lock picking sites that site admins had legitimate objections to.

Sometimes linking to wayback machine content creates unintended copyright violations. Admins can not afford the legal risks of allowing posting of links to some material from sites, especially sites that have been shut down.

The wayback machine is like a robot that copies everything that is found on a website. A well known website was captured before the sysadmin had a chance remove a bunch of extreme PORN. Well after the sysadmin had cleaned up their site you could still view the material as if the website was still hosting the porn by viewing it on thewayback machine. To the best of my knowlege the links did end up removed.

Re: Disappearing collector/reference web sites

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:22 am
by pickmonger2
One of my most missed sites was easypicking. Here's a look at the mainpage hosted on wayback machine.
Does any else remember this lost site.?

http://web.archive.org/web/20070113084307/http://www.ezpicking.com/

Re: Disappearing collector/reference web sites

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:16 pm
by Josephus
pickmonger2 wrote:One of my most missed sites was easypicking. Here's a look at the mainpage hosted on wayback machine.
Does any else remember this lost site.?

http://web.archive.org/web/20070113084307/http://www.ezpicking.com/


I was there Gandalf. I was there three thousand dozens of years ago. The only picking information was the MIT guide on an FTP server next to 2600 zines and a Paladin Press catalog. We had to write TCP packets by hand and deliver them uphill in the snow both ways through the eternal September.