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Posted: **Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:10 am**

Was joking with my son about information that was unhelpful, and we both joked about how it would be fun to do some troll pictures that would show scale of something, but in reality are not very helpful.

Here are a couple of ones I just took.

Here is a Folger Adam mogul cylinder, with a Yale peanut cylinder for scale:

If you don’t know the size of a Yale peanut cylinder, here is one with seven coins from around the world. You can no doubt recognize at least one of them and know the scale of the lock:

How about some of your not-very-helpful tips and/or pictures?

Gordon

Posted: **Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:22 pm**

Right up my alley, Gordon. Besides, what else is there to do when it is below zero outside? I will follow along with your size example.

I'm thinking of reproducing the key for early Yale and Towne time locks. In order for everyone to grasp the size of the key, here is a picture of it with an old oversized lug nut. Probably from a vintage tractor.

Unhelpful? Maybe this is better. Here it is with a 1960's/70's John Deere 350/450 bulldozer hood latch. That should give you the reference you need.

Still not registering? Here it is with a 1914 shell casing stamped with the following: 37-85 PDPs 71.10.14. This should make it easy.

Bonus points for who can identify the maker of the shell.

Posted: **Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:41 pm**

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Posted: **Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:57 pm**

00247 wrote:Right up my alley, Gordon. Besides, what else is there to do when it is below zero outside? I will follow along with your size example.

I'm thinking of reproducing the key for early Yale and Towne time locks. In order for everyone to grasp the size of the key, here is a picture of it with an old oversized lug nut. Probably from a vintage tractor.

Unhelpful? Maybe this is better. Here it is with a 1960's/70's John Deere 350/450 bulldozer hood latch. That should give you the reference you need.

Still not registering? Here it is with a 1914 shell casing stamped with the following: 37-85 PDPs 71.10.14. This should make it easy.

Bonus points for who can identify the maker of the shell.

Shell casing is from a French company. Pouderies des Paris, or something like that.

The John Deere hood latch definitely shows the scale accurately.

Gordon

Posted: **Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:43 pm**

Huge 6 Pound Solid Brass Skeleton Key And Regular One.

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Posted: **Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:59 pm**

Correct pin sizes don’t matter. Just use whatever is close and file them to fit! It’s also just fine if you file half the plug off!

Posted: **Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:14 am**

LOB long key next to a KW1, modified long pick next to a standard sized pick.

Posted: **Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:50 am**

Easy way to not spend money on a complete pin kit is to buy just .165 bottom pins and .030 master pins. Put in the key you want to key the lock to drop in the .165 bottom pins and stack .030 master pins up until they are level with the top. This way you don't have to file any pins down saving you time, money, and frustration. Problem solved. :mrgreen:

Richard

Posted: **Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:54 am**

Master No. 9 next to a Master No. 10. (The No. 9 is the one to the side of the No. 10).

Gordon

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