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Decoding key cuts from an image

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GWiens2001

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Post Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:09 am

Re: Decoding key cuts from an image

Some of you more long-time members will remember this one. Decoding can be a bit tricky.

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Any newer users care to decode? :D Those keys are from this thread.

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Post Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:05 am

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Wonderful, Gordon!
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Post Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:32 pm

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Interesting! The video posted in that thread on how to cut the keys like that doesn't seem to exist anymore, does anyone still have it or care to give an explanation?
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Re: Decoding key cuts from an image

malfunctionjunction wrote:Interesting! The video posted in that thread on how to cut the keys like that doesn't seem to exist anymore, does anyone still have it or care to give an explanation?


On a code cutter, cut the entire top of the blade at the highest bitting. Then cut the second deepest bitting and let it slide over any lower bittings (but not the taller cuts). Then repeat for the next depth, and so on. Then there will be no peaks
Between the cuts.

On a duplicator, after cutting the bitting, loosen the clamp on the original key and allow the original key to slide a little to cut off the peaks.

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Post Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:39 pm

Re: Decoding key cuts from an image

Ah, that gets rid of the peaks, but what about the "laser" cut?
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Re: Decoding key cuts from an image

malfunctionjunction wrote:Ah, that gets rid of the peaks, but what about the "laser" cut?


Ahh, I misunderstood the question. There are some automated code cutting machines that can work it out themselves. As for me, have to make a normal key so I can see the locations of the actual pin contact points, then estimate what the angles and lengths need to be, then hand cut the key.

Then again, I am not a professional locksmith. But I bet MBI was a professional locksmith once. :mrgreen:

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Re: Decoding key cuts from an image

Funny side note, at the store where I work they use IC locks (Keymark, sadly, but beside the point) and every so often they rotate out the cores to change up the keys... Today we got new keys for one area of my department, and to my surprise they were cut "laser" style. They were machine cut, but not as smooth as I would expect from software so I'm assuming they were done by hand. Apparently someone local is getting experimental... Gotta admit it was a little strange to see it in the wild. I really wanted to take a picture for you guys, but don't think that would have gone over very well ;)
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madsamurai wrote:Funny side note, at the store where I work they use IC locks (Keymark, sadly, but beside the point) and every so often they rotate out the cores to change up the keys... Today we got new keys for one area of my department, and to my surprise they were cut "laser" style. They were machine cut, but not as smooth as I would expect from software so I'm assuming they were done by hand. Apparently someone local is getting experimental... Gotta admit it was a little strange to see it in the wild. I really wanted to take a picture for you guys, but don't think that would have gone over very well ;)


Wow! Gutsy thing to do with SFIC. Are they actually laser cut, or do they just have no peaks between the lands?

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Post Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:51 pm

Re: Decoding key cuts from an image

GWiens2001 wrote:Wow! Gutsy thing to do with SFIC. Are they actually laser cut, or do they just have no peaks between the lands?
Gordon

No peaks, just smoothed angles between the flats... some of the angle cuts are a little more roundish/lumpy than others, which is why I am assuming it's hand done. Maybe doesn't quite qualify as "laser" style, now that I'm re-reading the earlier posts in that thread, but still definitely not a standard cut. A couple of low cuts keep the key from pulling out without the peaks.
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